https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56373
Nathan Larson <[email protected]> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #4 from Nathan Larson <[email protected]> --- It can be a config setting, which WMF can leave disabled on its wikis if it wishes. Why do we need a thanks log at all, when it comes right down to it? Its creation was probably motivated by the wiki-philosophy that (almost) everything should be transparent and that it's better to make (almost) as much information as possible publicly available. If we're going to do that much, we may as well take it to its logical conclusion. I would favor making it possible for users to comment when performing any logged action (including marking pages patrolled) so that others don't need to ask, "Why did you do that?" to know the rationale. It's helpful to have the relevant info displayed right there in Special:Log rather than scattered across various user talk pages, etc. Users who don't want to include a comment don't need to, unless there's a norm requiring it. This can vary from wiki to wiki. The downside might be that users might put Thank comments such as, "Thank you very much for this edit; I like your thinking here. I do have one minor quibble, which in some respects is connected to my larger theory concerning the implications of ..." Then it would be better to just add a talk page message, because that's likely the beginning of a back-and-forth dialog that will end up taking place on a talk page anyway. Readers will want to know what the first message in that exchange was. It could be copied and pasted into the talk page, though, in such cases. It might be useful to have an option, in viewing one's incoming "Thanks" notification, to get a permalink to the publicly viewable log entry. (I guess there's no logging.log_id parameter to Special:Log? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_Special:Log) These same arguments could be raised with reference to other log actions, e.g. what if someone blocks a user and puts a log comment such as "Repeated personal attacks at [[Talk:Foo]] and [[Talk:Bar]]"; this too could lead to a dialog taking place on a talk page in which it will not be possible for readers to know the original log comment that led to the conversation without viewing Special:Log. There are some wikis, e.g. RationalWiki, in which a lot of back-and-forth dialog takes place by means of block log comments that people view in RecentChanges. rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block I could probably do the backend stuff (database queries, etc.) needed to implement this option, but regrettably, my javascript-fu isn't all that great. I tried grepping around for some dialog code in other extensions I could adapt to implement the desired UI change but didn't see anything right off the bat. I'll continue looking, and maybe take the W3Schools JS tutorial or something. I don't see this as the type of situation in which the status should be changed to UNCONFIRMED, since it's confirmed that Thanks currently lacks the feature. It doesn't seem appropriate to WONTFIX either, since it's an extension feature request that can be switched on or off by means of a config setting. Even if it's deemed unsuitable for putting in the Thanks extension, it can be implemented by forking the code to create a new extension. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
