https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57659

--- Comment #9 from Oliver Keyes <oke...@wikimedia.org> ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> (In reply to comment #7)
> > Putting Flow out there on a couple of real discussion spaces
> > is
> > the only way we're going to be able to get actionable feedback on the design
> > and UI side. The sooner we start receiving this kind of feedback, the sooner
> > we
> > can prioritize our work on all the outstanding bugs, enhancements and 
> > feature
> > requests, so we get the right features to the right users at the right time.
> 
> That sounds like the same reasoning they used when deploying VE to enwiki
> with
> known bugs unfixed. I think we all know how well *that* went.
> 
> I realize the proposed deployment of Flow to enwiki is somewhat different
> since
> it's a deployment to two rather out-of-the-way talk pages rather than being
> enabled by default for everyone. But on the other hand, it's also that much
> less likely to give you the sort of feedback you're hoping for. And certain
> vocal community members will be on the defensive given the recent VE
> situation,
> ready to blast "the WMF" for doing the "same" thing again.
> 
Possibly. There are some community members who would find a way to take offence
to "how is your day going?". I don't particularly think we should base our
decisions around pandering to them.
> 
> (In reply to comment #7)
> > I understand that your priorities as a platform engineer fall toward making
> > sure our API is robust and well-documented.
> 
> I also want to avoid causing our volunteer community members to develop
> towards
> an API with known major flaws by pushing it on a production site before it's
> ready. The test wikis and mediawiki.org, while in production, are still test
> sites.

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