david, i think you hit the major point here. at the end of the day it is a document management problem, and the idea to recombine contents is followed by some extensions, like books extension. would it make sense to use wikidata for such tasks as well? i am not convinced that it makes sense to go onto a sentence level, but paragraphs do imo make sense. alone because e.g. the german wikipedia often stores an item in a paragraph, what is stored in an article in the english wikipedia. redirects are managed in de:wp, and there is no notion of storing wrong redirects to cover typo's.
of course there are some wikidata purists, like jane and gerard, who seem to be a little imprisoned in the original semantic mediawiki notation that every entry needs to be an article. one may even consider this opinion as correct in a greenfield approach where the contents is created from scratch. but - unfortunately this is not the case. wikidata came after wikipedia, and i consider it a fundamental failure of wikidata to not address the issue. rupert On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 1:03 AM, David Cuenca <[email protected]> wrote: > As Wikidata grows this problem will become more significant. Using redirects > doesn't seem a sustainable approach, but it will be hard to find better ones > considering the number of people involved and the investment in the current > platform. > > The biggest challenge will be to convince Wikipedians to break free of the > "article box". There is no reason to limit oneself to articles when there > can be smaller building blocks that can be recombined in different articles > with as much detail level as needed. > > Maybe after Commons there should be also a "Wikidata for Wikipedia content", > where each article section or sentence is represented by an item that can be > displayed in several articles or translated into different languages. > > Cheers, > Micru > > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Derric Atzrott > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thought I'd throw in my opinion on the matter. After reading this thread >> I think that I agree with the folks who believe that Wikidata items should >> be able to specify a Wikipedia article that is a redirect as a sitelink to >> Wikipedia. >> >> Its by no means an ideal solution, but I can't see any problems that it >> causes and I do see problems that it fixes. If there are problems /for >> Wikidata/ that allowing Wikidata items to link to Wikipedia redirects >> causes, I would be happy to hear them. I imagine someone likely tried >> to point some out, but I just didn't quite grasp them. >> >> Thank you, >> Derric Atzrott >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > > > > > -- > Etiamsi omnes, ego non > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
