> Using all these and interlanguage links I think we can create a (decent) service that can work. I can suggest a DBpedia gsoc project for this if some people are willing to mentor a student [2].
I know very little about dbpedia, but if it helps, I'm willing to support it from the Wikipedia / ContentTranslation side. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2015-03-04 10:08 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Kontokostas <[email protected]>: > Hi all, > > What you can get from DBpedia is > 1) template structure (all properties defined in a template) > I am not sure why this was not included in the 2014 release but you can > see an example in 3.9 [1] > Our parser cannot handle very complex templates but it is a good start. > I'll make sure these are included in the next release but it is also easy > to create a service that extracts them on request > > 2) mappings wiki > We are in the process of exporting our mappings in RDF using the [R2]RML > vocabulary. We have code that does that for simple mappings but it's not > ready to get merged yet. > Hopefully we'll have this soon and will be quite easy to query and join. > Even without that, we could get a partial functionality by translating & > matching properties from #1 > > 3) mappings wiki (ontology) > links from ontology classes/properties to wikidata, at the moment they are > stored in our wiki but could be stored in Wikidata instead as Daniel > suggested. > > Using all these and interlanguage links I think we can create a (decent) > service that can work. I can suggest a DBpedia gsoc project for this if > some people are willing to mentor a student [2]. > > What we would need from the Wikidata/DBpedia community is > 1) more ontology links from DBpedia to Wikidata > 2) contributions in the infobox mappings to cover more infoboxes for > better coverage > > Best, > Dimitris > > > [1] http://downloads.dbpedia.org/3.9/en/template_parameters_en.ttl.bz2 > [2] dbpedia.org/gsoc2015/ideas > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, that's a step forward. Now the question is how to bring this all >> together. >> >> The context that interests me the most is translating an article in >> ContentTranslation. Let's go with an architect.[1] I am translating an >> article about an architect from English to Dutch, and it has {{Infobox >> architect}} at the top. How would ContentTranslation, a MediaWiki extension >> installed on the Wikimedia cluster, know that the "name" parameter is >> "naam" in Dutch? >> >> Currently, in theory, it would: >> 1. Find that there's a corresponding infobox in Dutch using the >> interlanguage link: >> https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sjabloon:Infobox_architect >> 2. Go to dbpedia and find the English template: >> http://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php/Mapping_en:Infobox_architect >> 3. Find that name is foaf:name >> 4. Go to dbpedia and find the Dutch template: >> http://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php/Mapping_nl:Infobox_architect >> 5. Find that foaf:name is naam >> >> ... And then repeat steps 1 to 5 for each parameter. >> >> Is this something that is possible to query now? (I'm not even talking >> about performance.) >> >> Even if it is possible to query it, is it good to be dependent on an >> external website for this? Maybe it makes sense to import the data from >> dbpedia to Wikidata? It's absolutely not a rhetorical question - maybe it >> is OK to use dbpedia. >> >> [1] {{Infobox cricketer}} exists in the Dutch Wikipedia, but doesn' >> appear in the Dutch mappings in dbpedia. >> >> >> -- >> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי >> http://aharoni.wordpress.com >> “We're living in pieces, >> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore >> >> 2015-03-03 20:39 GMT+02:00 Daniel Kinzler <[email protected]>: >> >>> Am 03.03.2015 um 18:48 schrieb Amir E. Aharoni: >>> > Trying again... It's a really important topic for me. >>> > >>> > How do I go about proposing storing information about templates >>> parameters >>> > mapping to the community? I kinda understand how Wikidata works, and >>> it sounds >>> > like something that could be implemented using the current properties, >>> but >>> > thoughts about moving this forward would be very welcome. >>> >>> Hi Amir! >>> >>> We had a call today with the dbPedia folks, about exactly this topic! >>> >>> The dbPedia mapping wiki[1] has this information, at least to some >>> extent. Let's >>> say you are looking at {{Cricketer Infobox}} on en. You can look out the >>> DBPedia >>> mappings for the template parameters on their mapping page[2]. There you >>> can see >>> that the "country" parameter maps to the "country" proeprty in the >>> dbpedia >>> ontology[2], which in turn uses owl:equivalentProperty to cross-link >>> P17[4]. >>> >>> I assume this info is also available in machine readable form somewhere, >>> but I >>> don't know where offhand. >>> >>> Today we discussed that this mapping should also be available in the >>> opposite >>> direction: on Wikidata, you can use P1628 ("equivalent property") to >>> cross-reference the dbPedia ontology. I just added this info to the >>> country >>> property. >>> >>> let me know if this helps :) >>> -- daniel >>> >>> [1] http://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php/ >>> [2] http://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php/Mapping_en:Cricketer_Infobox >>> [3] http://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php/OntologyProperty:Country >>> [4] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P17 >>> >>> -- >>> Daniel Kinzler >>> Senior Software Developer >>> >>> Wikimedia Deutschland >>> Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> >> > > > -- > Kontokostas Dimitris > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > >
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