> Maybe we should store these internationalised templates here on wikidata?
That's precisely what my opening post is about :) I need help from people who understand Wikidata (and possible dbpedia) better than I do to figure out the details of getting it done. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2015-03-04 12:21 GMT+02:00 Joe Filceolaire <[email protected]>: > If you want to list the properties called by a template then you need a > property which links to other properties - ie it has a property datatype. > Property datatype is not available yet but is coming soon. > > You can then use the labels for this property in various languages to > label the corresponding template parameters > > It seems to me that it would be better to store this info in the template > itself - use lua to specify the property for each parameter and also to > specify that the parameter label should be the label of the corresponding > property in the language of that wiki. > > Maybe we should store these internationalised templates here on wikidata? > On 4 Mar 2015 09:35, "Dimitris Kontokostas" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Stas Malyshev <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> > architect}} at the top. How would ContentTranslation, a MediaWiki >>> > extension installed on the Wikimedia cluster, know that the "name" >>> > parameter is "naam" in Dutch? >>> >>> "Name" would be a bit tricky since I'm not sure if we have property >>> called "name" but for something like date of birth wouldn't it be useful >>> to link it in the template to >>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P569 somehow? Is there such >>> possibility? >>> >> >> In DBpedia we have our own properties and the mappings should use these >> instead. >> Some exceptions exist for very popular vocabularies such as foaf:name but >> I am not sure if we should allow direct mappings to a wikidata property if >> an equivalent DBpedia property exists. >> In this case it's >> http://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php/OntologyProperty:BirthDate >> We already have some mappings in place but more are needed for complete >> coverage >> >> http://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=wikidata&go=Go >> >> >>> With identifying properties, however - such as name - I'm not sure if >>> this could be used. >>> >> >> I agree that general properties such as name are difficult to interpret >> >> >>> >>> > Even if it is possible to query it, is it good to be dependent on an >>> > external website for this? Maybe it makes sense to import the data from >>> > dbpedia to Wikidata? It's absolutely not a rhetorical question - maybe >>> > it is OK to use dbpedia. >>> >>> Well, in dbpedia it says name is foaf:name, but this could only be >>> appropriate for humans (and maybe only in specific contexts), for other >>> entities "name" may have completely different semantics. In Wikidata, >>> however, properties are generic, so I wonder if it would be possible to >>> keep context. dbPedia obviously does have context but not sure where it >>> would be in Wikidata. >>> >> >> We could keep the context in DBpedia and with proper inter-linking do >> many interesting stuff. >> >> As we discussed yesterday, we could use DBpedia Live and check for >> updated/stalled/missing values. >> For example, if the previous values were the same in DBpedia/Wikipedia & >> Wikidata and e.g. Wikipedia changes a value we could trigger an update >> alert, or if a new value such as deathDate in introduced that does not >> exist in Wikidata. >> DBpedia would use dbo:deathDate, but using the link to P570 we could >> allow an agent to do the check >> >> >>> >>> -- >>> Stas Malyshev >>> [email protected] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Kontokostas Dimitris >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > >
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