On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Stas Malyshev <smalys...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> > architect}} at the top. How would ContentTranslation, a MediaWiki
> > extension installed on the Wikimedia cluster, know that the "name"
> > parameter is "naam" in Dutch?
>
> "Name" would be a bit tricky since I'm not sure if we have property
> called "name" but for something like date of birth wouldn't it be useful
> to link it in the template to
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P569 somehow? Is there such
> possibility?
>

In DBpedia we have our own properties and the mappings should use these
instead.
Some exceptions exist for very popular vocabularies such as foaf:name but I
am not sure if we should allow direct mappings to a wikidata property if an
equivalent DBpedia property exists.
In this case it's
http://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php/OntologyProperty:BirthDate
We already have some mappings in place but more are needed for complete
coverage
http://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=wikidata&go=Go


> With identifying properties, however - such as name - I'm not sure if
> this could be used.
>

I agree that general properties such as name are difficult to interpret


>
> > Even if it is possible to query it, is it good to be dependent on an
> > external website for this? Maybe it makes sense to import the data from
> > dbpedia to Wikidata? It's absolutely not a rhetorical question - maybe
> > it is OK to use dbpedia.
>
> Well, in dbpedia it says name is foaf:name, but this could only be
> appropriate for humans (and maybe only in specific contexts), for other
> entities "name" may have completely different semantics. In Wikidata,
> however, properties are generic, so I wonder if it would be possible to
> keep context. dbPedia obviously does have context but not sure where it
> would be in Wikidata.
>

We could keep the context in DBpedia and with proper inter-linking do many
interesting stuff.

As we discussed yesterday, we could use DBpedia Live and check for
updated/stalled/missing values.
For example, if the previous values were the same in DBpedia/Wikipedia &
Wikidata and e.g. Wikipedia changes a value we could trigger an update
alert, or if a new value such as deathDate in introduced that does not
exist in Wikidata.
DBpedia would use dbo:deathDate, but using the link to P570 we could allow
an agent to do the check


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