Hoi, You do not address how it prevents redundancy. I do not care for lexemes nor forms when they do not incorporate labels. That is something that you can explain now. Thanks, GerardM
On 8 May 2015 at 07:00, Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com> wrote: > I mean, the lexical data in Wikidata according to the proposal would > allow for statements on Lexemes and Forms. I slipped into the future for a > moment ;) > > On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:32 PM Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I am not sure I understand what you are saying. The lexical data in >> Wikidata does allow for statements on Lexemes and Forms, as the proposal >> states explicitly. >> >> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:25 PM Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hoi, >>> Given the opposition to having statements on the level of the label, it >>> does not make sense to have Wiktionary included in Wikidata. >>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> >>> On 8 May 2015 at 06:19, Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I would disagree with requiring the Wiktionary communities to change >>>> their ways. Instead we should adapt our plans to fit into the way they are >>>> set up. >>>> >>>> Even if the English Wiktionary community would change to have >>>> per-language pages instead of the current system, it would be rather >>>> unlikely that all other language editions of Wiktionary would follow in a >>>> timely manner. I would prefer to leave this decision to the autonomy of the >>>> projects, and instead adapt to them (which is, by the way, what the >>>> proposal does). >>>> >>>> Yair, as Daniel said, the current Wiktionary pages would not be mapped >>>> to Q-Items. Since this was unclear, I tried to update the text to make it >>>> clearer. Let me know if it is still confusing. >>>> >>>> I do not think a separate Wikibase instance would be needed to provide >>>> the data for Wiktionary. I think this can and should be done on Wikidata. >>>> But as said by Milos and pointed out by Gerard, lexical knowledge does >>>> indeed require a different data schema. This is why the proposal introduces >>>> new entity types for lexemes, forms, and senses. The data model is mostly >>>> based on lexical ontologies that we surveyed, like LEMON and others. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 2:26 PM Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemow...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Andy Mabbett, 07/05/2015 22:53: >>>>> >> >The Wiktionary communities tend to strongly disagree that >>>>> splitting entries >>>>> >> >per language would be easier for either editors or readers. >>>>> > How many languages are currently used? How will this scale to ~300 >>>>> languages? >>>>> >>>>> Hm? Last time I counted, the English Wiktionary alone used way more >>>>> than >>>>> 300 languages. >>>>> >>>>> Nemo >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > >
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