John: List mode!

https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/duplicity.php?wiki=nowiki&mode=list

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:16 AM Zolo ... <[email protected]> wrote:

> About missing labels: in frwiki, most Wikidata data are added using
> Module:Wikidata. The module adds a generic "to be translated" category when
> there is no French label. With Wikidata usage picking up speed, the
> community is finally coming to grip with it, as can be seen from that stats
> at Catégorie:Page utilisant des données de Wikidata à traduire.
> <https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Page_utilisant_des_donn%C3%A9es_de_Wikidata_%C3%A0_traduire>
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:06 PM, John Erling Blad <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Nice solution, I'll post a link at Wikipedia:Torget.
>> It is a bit like making a traffic statistic by using a road cam, so it
>> wasn't really what I was looking for..
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Magnus Manske
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I set up one of my tools for you (nowiki) for [1] :
>> > https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/duplicity.php
>> >
>> > It doesn't give you a list (though I could add that), rather presents
>> you
>> > with a random one and tries to find a matching item. Basically, what you
>> > need to do anyway for due diligence.
>> >
>> >
>> > Not quite sure what else you need, too much "somehow" in your
>> description...
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:01 PM John Erling Blad <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> We lack several maintenance scripts for the clients, that is human
>> >> readable special pages with reports on which pages lacks special
>> >> treatment. In no particular order we need some way to identify
>> >> unconnected pages in general (the present one does not work [1]), we
>> >> need some way to identify pages that are unconnected but has some
>> >> language links, we need to identify items that are used in some
>> >> language and lacks labels (almost like [2],but on the client and for
>> >> items that are somehow connected to pages on the client), and we need
>> >> to identify items that lacks specific claims and the client pages use
>> >> a specific template.
>> >>
>> >> There are probably more such maintenance pages, these are those that
>> >> are most urgent. Now users start to create categories to hack around
>> >> the missing maintenance pages, which create a bunch of categories.[3]
>> >> At Norwegian Bokmål there are just a few scripts that utilize data
>> >> from Wikidata, still the number of categories starts to grow large.
>> >>
>> >> For us at the "receiving end" this is a show stopper. We can't
>> >> convince the users that this is a positive addition to the pages
>> >> without the maintenance scripts, because them we more or less are in
>> >> the blind when we try to fix errors. We can't use random pages to try
>> >> to prod the pages to find something that is wrong, we must be able to
>> >> search for the errors and fix them.
>> >>
>> >> This summer we (nowiki) have added about ten (10) properties to the
>> >> infobokses, some with scripts and some with the property parser
>> >> function. Most of my time I have not been coding, and I have not been
>> >> fixing errors. I have been trying to explain to the community why
>> >> Wikidata is a good idea. At one point the changes was even reverted
>> >> because someone disagree with what we had done. The whole thing
>> >> basically revolves around "my article got an Q-id in the infobox and I
>> >> don't know how to fix it". We know how to fix it, and I have explained
>> >> that to the editors at nowiki several times. They still don't get it,
>> >> so we need some way to fix it, and we don't have maintenance scripts
>> >> to do it.
>> >>
>> >> Right now we don't need more wild ideas that will swamp the
>> >> development for months and years to come, we need maintenance scripts,
>> >> and we need them now!
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spesial:UnconnectedPages
>> >> [2] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel
>> >> [3]
>> >>
>> https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spesial:Prefiksindeks/Kategori:Artikler_hvor
>> >>
>> >> John Erling Blad
>> >> /jeblad
>> >>
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