John Erling Blad, 06/08/2015 17:13:
A couple of guys at nowiki has started using this tool, and if they
continue at present speed the list will be emptied in two weeks time.
Can you please add nnwiki too and I will inform the community there
that there is a tool available.
4941 items in list, looks like that didn't happen. How comes bots are
slacking? I thought they cared a lot about creating new Wikidata items
for new articles!
Nemo
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Magnus Manske
<[email protected]> wrote:
John: List mode!
https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/duplicity.php?wiki=nowiki&mode=list
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:16 AM Zolo ... <[email protected]> wrote:
About missing labels: in frwiki, most Wikidata data are added using
Module:Wikidata. The module adds a generic "to be translated" category when
there is no French label. With Wikidata usage picking up speed, the
community is finally coming to grip with it, as can be seen from that stats
at Catégorie:Page utilisant des données de Wikidata à traduire.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:06 PM, John Erling Blad <[email protected]> wrote:
Nice solution, I'll post a link at Wikipedia:Torget.
It is a bit like making a traffic statistic by using a road cam, so it
wasn't really what I was looking for..
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Magnus Manske
<[email protected]> wrote:
I set up one of my tools for you (nowiki) for [1] :
https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/duplicity.php
It doesn't give you a list (though I could add that), rather presents
you
with a random one and tries to find a matching item. Basically, what
you
need to do anyway for due diligence.
Not quite sure what else you need, too much "somehow" in your
description...
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:01 PM John Erling Blad <[email protected]>
wrote:
We lack several maintenance scripts for the clients, that is human
readable special pages with reports on which pages lacks special
treatment. In no particular order we need some way to identify
unconnected pages in general (the present one does not work [1]), we
need some way to identify pages that are unconnected but has some
language links, we need to identify items that are used in some
language and lacks labels (almost like [2],but on the client and for
items that are somehow connected to pages on the client), and we need
to identify items that lacks specific claims and the client pages use
a specific template.
There are probably more such maintenance pages, these are those that
are most urgent. Now users start to create categories to hack around
the missing maintenance pages, which create a bunch of categories.[3]
At Norwegian Bokmål there are just a few scripts that utilize data
from Wikidata, still the number of categories starts to grow large.
For us at the "receiving end" this is a show stopper. We can't
convince the users that this is a positive addition to the pages
without the maintenance scripts, because them we more or less are in
the blind when we try to fix errors. We can't use random pages to try
to prod the pages to find something that is wrong, we must be able to
search for the errors and fix them.
This summer we (nowiki) have added about ten (10) properties to the
infobokses, some with scripts and some with the property parser
function. Most of my time I have not been coding, and I have not been
fixing errors. I have been trying to explain to the community why
Wikidata is a good idea. At one point the changes was even reverted
because someone disagree with what we had done. The whole thing
basically revolves around "my article got an Q-id in the infobox and I
don't know how to fix it". We know how to fix it, and I have explained
that to the editors at nowiki several times. They still don't get it,
so we need some way to fix it, and we don't have maintenance scripts
to do it.
Right now we don't need more wild ideas that will swamp the
development for months and years to come, we need maintenance scripts,
and we need them now!
[1] https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spesial:UnconnectedPages
[2] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel
[3]
https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spesial:Prefiksindeks/Kategori:Artikler_hvor
John Erling Blad
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