I think the Norwegian lists are a subset of Preus Photo Museums list. It is
now maintained partly by Nasjonalbiblioteket (the Norwegian one, not the
Swedish one) and Norsk Lokalhistorisk Institutt. For examle; Anders Beer
Wilse in nowiki,[1] at Lokalhistoriewiki,[2] and at Nasjonalbiblioteket.[3]

Kulturnav is a kind of maintained ontology, where most of the work is done
by local museums. The software for the site itself is made (in part) by a
grant from Norsk Kulturråd.

We should connect as much as possible of our resources to resources at
Kulturnav, and not just copy data. That said, we don't have a very good
model for hov to materialize data from external sites and make it available
for our client sites, so our option is more or less just to copy. It is
better to maintain data at one location.

[1] https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Beer_Wilse
[2] https://lokalhistoriewiki.no/index.php/Anders_Beer_Wilse
[3] http://www.nb.no/nmff/fotograf.php?fotograf_id=3050

On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 9:51 PM, André Costa <andre.co...@wikimedia.se>
wrote:

> Happy to be of use. There is also one for:
> * Swedish photo studios [1]
> * Norwegian photographers[2]
> * Norwegian photo studios [3]
> I'm less familiar with these though and don't have a timeline for wikidata
> integration.
>
> Cheers,
> André
>
> [1] http://kulturnav.org/deb494a0-5457-4e5f-ae9b-e1826e0de681
> [2] http://kulturnav.org/508197af-6e36-4e4f-927c-79f8f63654b2
> [3] http://kulturnav.org/7d2a01d1-724c-4ad2-a18c-e799880a0241
> ------
> André Costa
> GLAM developer
> Wikimedia Sverige
> On 9 Dec 2015 15:07, "David Lowe" <davidl...@nypl.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, André! I don't know that I've found that before. Great to get
>> country (or region) specific lists like this.
>> D
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 9, 2015, André Costa <andre.co...@wikimedia.se>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In case you haven't come across it before
>>> http://kulturnav.org/1f368832-7649-4386-97b6-ae40cce8752b is the entry
>>> point to the Swedish database of (primarily early) photographers curated by
>>> the Nordic Museum in Stockholm.
>>>
>>> It's not that well integrated into Wikidata yet but the plan is to fix
>>> that during early 2016. That would also allow a variety of photographs on
>>> Wikimedia Commons to be linked to these entries.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> André
>>>
>>> André Costa | GLAM developer, Wikimedia Sverige |
>>> andre.co...@wikimedia.se | +46 (0)733-964574
>>>
>>> Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige.
>>> Läs mer på blimedlem.wikimedia.se
>>>
>>> On 9 December 2015 at 02:44, David Lowe <davidl...@nypl.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Tom.
>>>> I'll have to look at this specific case when I'm back at work tomorrow,
>>>> as it does seem you found something in error.
>>>> As for my process: with WD, I queried out the label, description &
>>>> country of citizenship, dob & dod of of everyone with occupation:
>>>> photographer. After some cleaning, I can get the WD data formatted like my
>>>> own (Name, Nationality, Dates). I can then do a simple match, where
>>>> everything matches exactly. For the remainder, I then match names and
>>>> dates- without Nationality, which is often very "soft" information. For
>>>> those that pass a smell test (one is "English" the other is "British") I
>>>> pass those along, too. For those with greater discrepancies, I look still
>>>> closer. For those with still greater discrepancies, I manually,
>>>> individually query my database for anyone with the same last name & same
>>>> first initial to catch misspellings or different transliterations. I also
>>>> occasionally put my entire database into open refine to catch instances
>>>> where, for instance, a Chinese name has been given as FamilyName, GivenName
>>>> in one source, and GivenName, FamilyName in another.
>>>> In short, this is scrupulously- and manually- checked data. I'm not
>>>> savvy enough to let an algorithm make my mistakes for me! But let me know
>>>> if this seems to be more than bad luck of the draw- finding the conflicting
>>>> data you found.
>>>> I have also to say, I may suppress the Niepce Museum collection, as
>>>> it's from a really crappy list of photographers in their collection which I
>>>> found many years ago, and can no longer find. I don't want to blame them
>>>> for the discrepancy, but that might be the source. I don't know.
>>>> As I start to query out places of birth & death from WD in the next
>>>> days, I expect to find more discrepancies. (Just today, I found dozens of
>>>> folks whom ULAN gendered one way, and WD another- but were undeniably the
>>>> same photographer. )
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, December 8, 2015, Tom Morris <tfmor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can you explain what "indexing" means in this context?  Is there some
>>>>> type of matching process?  How are duplicates resolved, if at all? Was the
>>>>> Wikidata info extracted from a dump or one of the APIs?
>>>>>
>>>>> When I looked at the first person I picked at random, Pierre Berdoy
>>>>> (ID:269710), I see that both Wikidata and Wikipedia claim that he was born
>>>>> in Biarritz while the NYPL database claims he was born in Nashua, NH.  So,
>>>>> it would appear that there are either two different people with the same
>>>>> name, born in different places, or the birth place is wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://mgiraldo.github.io/pic/?&biography.TermID=2028247&Location=269710|42.7575,-71.4644
>>>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3383941
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 7:10 PM, David Lowe <davidl...@nypl.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> The Photographers' Identities Catalog (PIC) is an ongoing project of
>>>>>> visualizing photo history through the lives of photographers and photo
>>>>>> studios. I have information on 115,000 photographers and studios as of
>>>>>> tonight. It is still under construction, but as I've almost completed an
>>>>>> initial indexing of the ~12,000 photographers in WikiData, I thought I'd
>>>>>> share it with you. We (the New York Public Library) hope to launch it
>>>>>> officially in mid to late January. This represents about 12 years worth 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> my work of researching in NYPL's photography collection, censuses and
>>>>>> business directories, and scraping or indexing trusted websites, 
>>>>>> databases,
>>>>>> and published biographical dictionaries pertaining to photo history.
>>>>>> Again, please bear in mind that our programmer is still hard at work
>>>>>> (and I continue to refine and add to the data*), but we welcome your
>>>>>> feedback, questions, critiques, etc. To see the WikiData photographers,
>>>>>> select WikiData from the Source dropdown. Have fun!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *PIC*
>>>>>> <http://mgiraldo.github.io/pic/?address.AddressTypeID=*&address.CountryID=*&Nationality=*&gender.TermID=*&process.TermID=*&role.TermID=*&format.TermID=*&biography.TermID=*&collection.TermID=*&Location=*&DisplayName=*&Date=*>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Tomorrow,  for instance, I'll start mining Wikidata for birth &
>>>>>> death locations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Wikidata mailing list
>>>>>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org
>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Wikidata mailing list
>>>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org
>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wikidata mailing list
>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Wikidata mailing list
> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
>
>
_______________________________________________
Wikidata mailing list
Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata

Reply via email to