Forgot to mention; Anders Beer Wilse in Kulturnav http://kulturnav.org/2b94216b-f2fc-46a3-b2ce-eeb93aa19185
On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 11:19 PM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think the Norwegian lists are a subset of Preus Photo Museums list. It > is now maintained partly by Nasjonalbiblioteket (the Norwegian one, not the > Swedish one) and Norsk Lokalhistorisk Institutt. For examle; Anders Beer > Wilse in nowiki,[1] at Lokalhistoriewiki,[2] and at Nasjonalbiblioteket.[3] > > Kulturnav is a kind of maintained ontology, where most of the work is done > by local museums. The software for the site itself is made (in part) by a > grant from Norsk Kulturråd. > > We should connect as much as possible of our resources to resources at > Kulturnav, and not just copy data. That said, we don't have a very good > model for hov to materialize data from external sites and make it available > for our client sites, so our option is more or less just to copy. It is > better to maintain data at one location. > > [1] https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Beer_Wilse > [2] https://lokalhistoriewiki.no/index.php/Anders_Beer_Wilse > [3] http://www.nb.no/nmff/fotograf.php?fotograf_id=3050 > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 9:51 PM, André Costa <andre.co...@wikimedia.se> > wrote: > >> Happy to be of use. There is also one for: >> * Swedish photo studios [1] >> * Norwegian photographers[2] >> * Norwegian photo studios [3] >> I'm less familiar with these though and don't have a timeline for >> wikidata integration. >> >> Cheers, >> André >> >> [1] http://kulturnav.org/deb494a0-5457-4e5f-ae9b-e1826e0de681 >> [2] http://kulturnav.org/508197af-6e36-4e4f-927c-79f8f63654b2 >> [3] http://kulturnav.org/7d2a01d1-724c-4ad2-a18c-e799880a0241 >> ------ >> André Costa >> GLAM developer >> Wikimedia Sverige >> On 9 Dec 2015 15:07, "David Lowe" <davidl...@nypl.org> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, André! I don't know that I've found that before. Great to get >>> country (or region) specific lists like this. >>> D >>> >>> On Wednesday, December 9, 2015, André Costa <andre.co...@wikimedia.se> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> In case you haven't come across it before >>>> http://kulturnav.org/1f368832-7649-4386-97b6-ae40cce8752b is the entry >>>> point to the Swedish database of (primarily early) photographers curated by >>>> the Nordic Museum in Stockholm. >>>> >>>> It's not that well integrated into Wikidata yet but the plan is to fix >>>> that during early 2016. That would also allow a variety of photographs on >>>> Wikimedia Commons to be linked to these entries. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> André >>>> >>>> André Costa | GLAM developer, Wikimedia Sverige | >>>> andre.co...@wikimedia.se | +46 (0)733-964574 >>>> >>>> Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige. >>>> Läs mer på blimedlem.wikimedia.se >>>> >>>> On 9 December 2015 at 02:44, David Lowe <davidl...@nypl.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Tom. >>>>> I'll have to look at this specific case when I'm back at work >>>>> tomorrow, as it does seem you found something in error. >>>>> As for my process: with WD, I queried out the label, description & >>>>> country of citizenship, dob & dod of of everyone with occupation: >>>>> photographer. After some cleaning, I can get the WD data formatted like my >>>>> own (Name, Nationality, Dates). I can then do a simple match, where >>>>> everything matches exactly. For the remainder, I then match names and >>>>> dates- without Nationality, which is often very "soft" information. For >>>>> those that pass a smell test (one is "English" the other is "British") I >>>>> pass those along, too. For those with greater discrepancies, I look still >>>>> closer. For those with still greater discrepancies, I manually, >>>>> individually query my database for anyone with the same last name & same >>>>> first initial to catch misspellings or different transliterations. I also >>>>> occasionally put my entire database into open refine to catch instances >>>>> where, for instance, a Chinese name has been given as FamilyName, >>>>> GivenName >>>>> in one source, and GivenName, FamilyName in another. >>>>> In short, this is scrupulously- and manually- checked data. I'm not >>>>> savvy enough to let an algorithm make my mistakes for me! But let me know >>>>> if this seems to be more than bad luck of the draw- finding the >>>>> conflicting >>>>> data you found. >>>>> I have also to say, I may suppress the Niepce Museum collection, as >>>>> it's from a really crappy list of photographers in their collection which >>>>> I >>>>> found many years ago, and can no longer find. I don't want to blame them >>>>> for the discrepancy, but that might be the source. I don't know. >>>>> As I start to query out places of birth & death from WD in the next >>>>> days, I expect to find more discrepancies. (Just today, I found dozens of >>>>> folks whom ULAN gendered one way, and WD another- but were undeniably the >>>>> same photographer. ) >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, December 8, 2015, Tom Morris <tfmor...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Can you explain what "indexing" means in this context? Is there some >>>>>> type of matching process? How are duplicates resolved, if at all? Was >>>>>> the >>>>>> Wikidata info extracted from a dump or one of the APIs? >>>>>> >>>>>> When I looked at the first person I picked at random, Pierre Berdoy >>>>>> (ID:269710), I see that both Wikidata and Wikipedia claim that he was >>>>>> born >>>>>> in Biarritz while the NYPL database claims he was born in Nashua, NH. >>>>>> So, >>>>>> it would appear that there are either two different people with the same >>>>>> name, born in different places, or the birth place is wrong. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://mgiraldo.github.io/pic/?&biography.TermID=2028247&Location=269710|42.7575,-71.4644 >>>>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3383941 >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 7:10 PM, David Lowe <davidl...@nypl.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>> The Photographers' Identities Catalog (PIC) is an ongoing project of >>>>>>> visualizing photo history through the lives of photographers and photo >>>>>>> studios. I have information on 115,000 photographers and studios as of >>>>>>> tonight. It is still under construction, but as I've almost completed an >>>>>>> initial indexing of the ~12,000 photographers in WikiData, I thought I'd >>>>>>> share it with you. We (the New York Public Library) hope to launch it >>>>>>> officially in mid to late January. This represents about 12 years worth >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> my work of researching in NYPL's photography collection, censuses and >>>>>>> business directories, and scraping or indexing trusted websites, >>>>>>> databases, >>>>>>> and published biographical dictionaries pertaining to photo history. >>>>>>> Again, please bear in mind that our programmer is still hard at work >>>>>>> (and I continue to refine and add to the data*), but we welcome your >>>>>>> feedback, questions, critiques, etc. To see the WikiData photographers, >>>>>>> select WikiData from the Source dropdown. Have fun! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *PIC* >>>>>>> <http://mgiraldo.github.io/pic/?address.AddressTypeID=*&address.CountryID=*&Nationality=*&gender.TermID=*&process.TermID=*&role.TermID=*&format.TermID=*&biography.TermID=*&collection.TermID=*&Location=*&DisplayName=*&Date=*> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> David >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Tomorrow, for instance, I'll start mining Wikidata for birth & >>>>>>> death locations. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>>>>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata mailing list >>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> >
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