Forgot to mention; Anders Beer Wilse in Kulturnav
http://kulturnav.org/2b94216b-f2fc-46a3-b2ce-eeb93aa19185

On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 11:19 PM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the Norwegian lists are a subset of Preus Photo Museums list. It
> is now maintained partly by Nasjonalbiblioteket (the Norwegian one, not the
> Swedish one) and Norsk Lokalhistorisk Institutt. For examle; Anders Beer
> Wilse in nowiki,[1] at Lokalhistoriewiki,[2] and at Nasjonalbiblioteket.[3]
>
> Kulturnav is a kind of maintained ontology, where most of the work is done
> by local museums. The software for the site itself is made (in part) by a
> grant from Norsk Kulturråd.
>
> We should connect as much as possible of our resources to resources at
> Kulturnav, and not just copy data. That said, we don't have a very good
> model for hov to materialize data from external sites and make it available
> for our client sites, so our option is more or less just to copy. It is
> better to maintain data at one location.
>
> [1] https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Beer_Wilse
> [2] https://lokalhistoriewiki.no/index.php/Anders_Beer_Wilse
> [3] http://www.nb.no/nmff/fotograf.php?fotograf_id=3050
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 9:51 PM, André Costa <andre.co...@wikimedia.se>
> wrote:
>
>> Happy to be of use. There is also one for:
>> * Swedish photo studios [1]
>> * Norwegian photographers[2]
>> * Norwegian photo studios [3]
>> I'm less familiar with these though and don't have a timeline for
>> wikidata integration.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> André
>>
>> [1] http://kulturnav.org/deb494a0-5457-4e5f-ae9b-e1826e0de681
>> [2] http://kulturnav.org/508197af-6e36-4e4f-927c-79f8f63654b2
>> [3] http://kulturnav.org/7d2a01d1-724c-4ad2-a18c-e799880a0241
>> ------
>> André Costa
>> GLAM developer
>> Wikimedia Sverige
>> On 9 Dec 2015 15:07, "David Lowe" <davidl...@nypl.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, André! I don't know that I've found that before. Great to get
>>> country (or region) specific lists like this.
>>> D
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 9, 2015, André Costa <andre.co...@wikimedia.se>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In case you haven't come across it before
>>>> http://kulturnav.org/1f368832-7649-4386-97b6-ae40cce8752b is the entry
>>>> point to the Swedish database of (primarily early) photographers curated by
>>>> the Nordic Museum in Stockholm.
>>>>
>>>> It's not that well integrated into Wikidata yet but the plan is to fix
>>>> that during early 2016. That would also allow a variety of photographs on
>>>> Wikimedia Commons to be linked to these entries.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> André
>>>>
>>>> André Costa | GLAM developer, Wikimedia Sverige |
>>>> andre.co...@wikimedia.se | +46 (0)733-964574
>>>>
>>>> Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige.
>>>> Läs mer på blimedlem.wikimedia.se
>>>>
>>>> On 9 December 2015 at 02:44, David Lowe <davidl...@nypl.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Tom.
>>>>> I'll have to look at this specific case when I'm back at work
>>>>> tomorrow, as it does seem you found something in error.
>>>>> As for my process: with WD, I queried out the label, description &
>>>>> country of citizenship, dob & dod of of everyone with occupation:
>>>>> photographer. After some cleaning, I can get the WD data formatted like my
>>>>> own (Name, Nationality, Dates). I can then do a simple match, where
>>>>> everything matches exactly. For the remainder, I then match names and
>>>>> dates- without Nationality, which is often very "soft" information. For
>>>>> those that pass a smell test (one is "English" the other is "British") I
>>>>> pass those along, too. For those with greater discrepancies, I look still
>>>>> closer. For those with still greater discrepancies, I manually,
>>>>> individually query my database for anyone with the same last name & same
>>>>> first initial to catch misspellings or different transliterations. I also
>>>>> occasionally put my entire database into open refine to catch instances
>>>>> where, for instance, a Chinese name has been given as FamilyName, 
>>>>> GivenName
>>>>> in one source, and GivenName, FamilyName in another.
>>>>> In short, this is scrupulously- and manually- checked data. I'm not
>>>>> savvy enough to let an algorithm make my mistakes for me! But let me know
>>>>> if this seems to be more than bad luck of the draw- finding the 
>>>>> conflicting
>>>>> data you found.
>>>>> I have also to say, I may suppress the Niepce Museum collection, as
>>>>> it's from a really crappy list of photographers in their collection which 
>>>>> I
>>>>> found many years ago, and can no longer find. I don't want to blame them
>>>>> for the discrepancy, but that might be the source. I don't know.
>>>>> As I start to query out places of birth & death from WD in the next
>>>>> days, I expect to find more discrepancies. (Just today, I found dozens of
>>>>> folks whom ULAN gendered one way, and WD another- but were undeniably the
>>>>> same photographer. )
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, December 8, 2015, Tom Morris <tfmor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you explain what "indexing" means in this context?  Is there some
>>>>>> type of matching process?  How are duplicates resolved, if at all? Was 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Wikidata info extracted from a dump or one of the APIs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I looked at the first person I picked at random, Pierre Berdoy
>>>>>> (ID:269710), I see that both Wikidata and Wikipedia claim that he was 
>>>>>> born
>>>>>> in Biarritz while the NYPL database claims he was born in Nashua, NH.  
>>>>>> So,
>>>>>> it would appear that there are either two different people with the same
>>>>>> name, born in different places, or the birth place is wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://mgiraldo.github.io/pic/?&biography.TermID=2028247&Location=269710|42.7575,-71.4644
>>>>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3383941
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 7:10 PM, David Lowe <davidl...@nypl.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> The Photographers' Identities Catalog (PIC) is an ongoing project of
>>>>>>> visualizing photo history through the lives of photographers and photo
>>>>>>> studios. I have information on 115,000 photographers and studios as of
>>>>>>> tonight. It is still under construction, but as I've almost completed an
>>>>>>> initial indexing of the ~12,000 photographers in WikiData, I thought I'd
>>>>>>> share it with you. We (the New York Public Library) hope to launch it
>>>>>>> officially in mid to late January. This represents about 12 years worth 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> my work of researching in NYPL's photography collection, censuses and
>>>>>>> business directories, and scraping or indexing trusted websites, 
>>>>>>> databases,
>>>>>>> and published biographical dictionaries pertaining to photo history.
>>>>>>> Again, please bear in mind that our programmer is still hard at work
>>>>>>> (and I continue to refine and add to the data*), but we welcome your
>>>>>>> feedback, questions, critiques, etc. To see the WikiData photographers,
>>>>>>> select WikiData from the Source dropdown. Have fun!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *PIC*
>>>>>>> <http://mgiraldo.github.io/pic/?address.AddressTypeID=*&address.CountryID=*&Nationality=*&gender.TermID=*&process.TermID=*&role.TermID=*&format.TermID=*&biography.TermID=*&collection.TermID=*&Location=*&DisplayName=*&Date=*>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Tomorrow,  for instance, I'll start mining Wikidata for birth &
>>>>>>> death locations.
>>>>>>>
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