Wayne, Leigh and others: Comments below, beginning in CAPS:
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Leigh & Randy > > I don't see the 3 capability phases (that is; skills development; > personal content development projects; and international collaboration on > projects) as being mutually exclusive. On the contrary they should ideally > all happen in parallel <smile>. > TOTALLY AGREED. Rapid, parallel development is the way to go. Many iterations and experiences, incorporating feedback and local experience, creating our approach that feels more aligned to what we are creating... > > > The challenge for our community is to figure out how best to manage and > cater for multiple levels of capability without holding the early innovators > back or alienating newbies. WE is a community which should welcome and meet > all participants where they are at -- including the community leaders who > are plotting our futures. Our focus on the building the future is a core > value of the community, and is enshrined in our strategic thinking. > AGREED. As Otago is on the leading edge for themselves, newbies also consider themselves on the leading edge for them too! :-) However, Otago's leadership mitigates risk (in the future) for future action / adoption. > > > Otago Poly has pushed the envelope. I can attest that Dunedin's > interventions have compressed the WE strategic time scale by 9 to 12 months > of where I reasonably expected the project to be at this juncture in its > history. So Leigh, as a community we will rely heavily on your foresight > and guidance in helping us build capability for the next phase in our > evolution. > THIS 9-12 MONTHS ' ACCELERATION should be come a rallying point .... how to capture and leverage this information... > > > While our early attempts at international collaboration on specific > projects may not have delivered the dividends we would have liked -- we > shouldn't be too hard on ourselves recognising that some seeds take longer > to germinate than others. Let's learn from our experiences and figure out > how to do this better .... So I'm reading and thinking about your > suggestions with CONSIDERABLE interest. > YES, AGREED TOO. I THINK THE WEBCONFERENCES should have a couple of foci: (1) general topics of interest to the community; and (2) project -based. Let's identify several projects that we wish to foster the kind of collaboration that Leigh is talking about, and we / WE can facilitate this....My sense is, this is largely a process / design issues....( perhaps there's even another level in the Wiki Skills Certification process for WikiFacilitator/Collaboration - but first things first, let's get some active collaboration stuff happening... We will be able to measure this stuff - we've got to...thx. to our work with Jonathan Miller's (WikiEd, M&E) > > > Notwithstanding the phenomenal successes of the WMF projects -- WE are very > much pioneers. WE is a unique community and is succeeding in engaging real > educators in the formal education sectors from all corners of the globe. My > personal preference is that WE does not become a community which alienates > newbies, but at the same time supports and feeds the innovators and early > adopters. > YES, WE are on the same page.....but let's make a distinction between newbies exploring the development of wiki skills, and interest in collaboration. Positioned properly, any newbie can see the promise and potential of collaboration....that may be why they joined in the first place....Come to think of it, maybe we can adjust our Newbie survey and subsequent ones....to gain insights into their ideas and motivations underscoring collaborative intent and action. Let's harness and support Otago's increasing momentum. > > > A tall order --- but based on our collective track record to date -- I know > that we'll get this right. > AND, there are many versions and nuances of "right", right? > > > Hey -- is going to be a fascinating if not historic year for us!!! > UBET! > > > Cheers > Wayne > > > > > > > On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 09:51 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: > > Hi Randy, Wayne. > > I think Wayne sets out a realistic 3 steps. And for the most part I think > we as a whole are taking those steps. A slight trouble (and risk) is that > different people are at different stages in this flow. So while the L4C is > focusing on Phase 1: Basic skills development in using the wiki a few of the > early adopters are itching for Phase 3: Collaborative content development in > achieving collective goals. Otago Polytechnic is an early adopter, and we > itch for evidence of phase 3 because all too often we are having to justify > our radically different approach to distance and online learning (using > Wikieducator). I think we can handle this pressure, but it would be great to > see some form of commitment (if resources permit it) to the facilitation of > phase 3 opportunities. > > Randy seems to be in a position to facilitate some phase 3. A team of > facilitators would be good. The webconferences might be a good way to gather > steam around making phase 3 facilitation possible, but I suspect a more > targeted and proactive facilitation effort is needed. > > Otago looked like it had something going in terms of a collaboration with > Mauritius over our Tourism developments. Similarly with 2 people in the L4C > who contributed to "our" HIV/AIDS content. But disappointingly, these have > not progressed. Mostly because Otago people have not had the time or skills > to begin communicating around collaboration - and so an experienced > facilitator is needed. Someone who can mediate the initial stages of a > collaboration. > > Randy's questions: > > * Define what your understanding of Collaboration is? > * How do we propose to measure it, and over what intervals? > > Collaboration is evidenced by: > > - Sustained communication > - Negotiated outcomes > - Shared actions > - Shared ownership > - Shared outcomes > > This might be measured by: > > - The edit history of a page/s > - The communication pages > - The email list > - Student exchange programs > - Teacher exchange programs > - Team teaching > - Networked teaching and learning > > > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hi Randy, > > > I'm very excited to see our community starting to think about ways to > increase collaborative development. > > As an aside - I think that this is positive sign attesting to the > dynamic nature of communities and how they mature over time. It's > tempting to distinguish capability maturity phases for WE, for > example: > > Phase 1: Basic skills development in using the wiki > Phase 2:. Focus on content development for own use > Phase 3: Collaborative content development in achieving collective > goals > > So it seems that WE has reached the next phase of our evolution > <smile>. These are exciting times and its great to be part of the > early pioneers taking collective responsibility for building the > future success of OUR project. This is well aligned with our strategy > - because WE is now in the phase of scaling up content development. > > See: http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:About > > > Cheers > Wayne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > Leigh Blackall > +64(0)21736539 > skype - leigh_blackall > SL - Leroy Goalpost > http://learnonline.wordpress.com > > > > > -- ________________ Randy Fisher - Facilitating Change and Designing Sustainable Ecosystems to Improve Performance- for People, Teams, Communities, and Organizations http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Randyfisher + 1 604.684.2275 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hirerandy.com Skype: wikirandy --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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