I find this discussion interesting, particularly in light of the
"Systemic and cognitive view on collaborative knowledge building with
wikis". paper referenced in a previous post. I read the paper and upon
reflection agreed that wikis are great places for individuals (and
groups) to construct knowledge. This paper went into the foundational
knowledge (proof) that wikis are great places to construct knowledge.
The paper talks about how it is the individuals who participate in the
knowledge creation (authoring of the wiki) that benefit.
http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator/browse_thread/thread/1707624e31249be5?hl=en

I also AGREE with what is being written in this and related threads. I
also believe what Otago is doing is awesome! Though I fundamentally
believe that WE is targeting the wrong audience to be the
collaborators. It is the students that should be creating the WE pages
and the teachers provide guidance / mentorship. So far I am seeing
teachers creating the content, and this is the flaw. When we talk
about increasing collaboration, we should be talking about how do we
get teachers "out of the way" and encourage the students to be
collaborating within WE. These were my sentiments a year back during
the Tectonic Shift; http://wikieducator.org/User:Prawstho/Vision and
they haven't changed. having watched the WE over the last year I
believe this more now than ever.

So I challenge everyone to think about who should be the WE authors
(collaborators); the teachers or the students?

Peter



On May 22, 4:54 am, Missan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Collaboration to me is a process of working together to achieve a
> shared goal. For WikiEd, the shared goal is to develop free content
> for supporting learning at different levels and different subject
> domains. As a community we have started on this path, and agreed to
> create content that shall be avialable for free on the WikiEd
> platform. There are different stages of development for the end users,
> but as a community we should be at one stage. May be we are now in the
> training stage, and therefore not much collaboration is visible. So,
> it is too early to ask for too much. But, there is nothing wrong in
> asking for more, and Randy has rightly started this discussion. How do
> we measure collaboration? Some indicators are:
>
> * Number of edits on contents created by others
> * More discussion on the discussion pages
> * Groups commited to develop content on a particular area and
> continusouly working on it
> * More useful content rated by the community
> * And many more...
>
> At the present stage of development, we are only adding content to
> WikiEd as individuals. More collaboration will start, once we develop
> the rating system/ feature article system/ or flagging. Collboration
> as a learning opportunity leads to negotiated understanding.
>
> with regards, Sanjaya
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