I've created the following page, to capture some of this stuff - http://www.wikieducator.org/Collaboration
Randy On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Randy Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wayne, Leigh and others: > > Comments below, beginning in CAPS: > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Hi Leigh & Randy >> >> I don't see the 3 capability phases (that is; skills development; >> personal content development projects; and international collaboration on >> projects) as being mutually exclusive. On the contrary they should ideally >> all happen in parallel <smile>. >> > > TOTALLY AGREED. Rapid, parallel development is the way to go. Many > iterations and experiences, incorporating feedback and local experience, > creating our approach that feels more aligned to what we are creating... > >> >> >> The challenge for our community is to figure out how best to manage and >> cater for multiple levels of capability without holding the early innovators >> back or alienating newbies. WE is a community which should welcome and meet >> all participants where they are at -- including the community leaders who >> are plotting our futures. Our focus on the building the future is a core >> value of the community, and is enshrined in our strategic thinking. >> > > AGREED. As Otago is on the leading edge for themselves, newbies also > consider themselves on the leading edge for them too! :-) However, Otago's > leadership mitigates risk (in the future) for future action / adoption. > >> >> >> Otago Poly has pushed the envelope. I can attest that Dunedin's >> interventions have compressed the WE strategic time scale by 9 to 12 months >> of where I reasonably expected the project to be at this juncture in its >> history. So Leigh, as a community we will rely heavily on your foresight >> and guidance in helping us build capability for the next phase in our >> evolution. >> > > THIS 9-12 MONTHS ' ACCELERATION should be come a rallying point .... how > to capture and leverage this information... > >> >> >> While our early attempts at international collaboration on specific >> projects may not have delivered the dividends we would have liked -- we >> shouldn't be too hard on ourselves recognising that some seeds take longer >> to germinate than others. Let's learn from our experiences and figure out >> how to do this better .... So I'm reading and thinking about your >> suggestions with CONSIDERABLE interest. >> > > YES, AGREED TOO. I THINK THE WEBCONFERENCES should have a couple of foci: > (1) general topics of interest to the community; and (2) project -based. > Let's identify several projects that we wish to foster the kind of > collaboration that Leigh is talking about, and we / WE can facilitate > this....My sense is, this is largely a process / design issues....( perhaps > there's even another level in the Wiki Skills Certification process for > WikiFacilitator/Collaboration - but first things first, let's get some > active collaboration stuff happening... We will be able to measure this > stuff - we've got to...thx. to our work with Jonathan Miller's (WikiEd, M&E) > >> >> >> Notwithstanding the phenomenal successes of the WMF projects -- WE are >> very much pioneers. WE is a unique community and is succeeding in engaging >> real educators in the formal education sectors from all corners of the >> globe. My personal preference is that WE does not become a community which >> alienates newbies, but at the same time supports and feeds the innovators >> and early adopters. >> > > YES, WE are on the same page.....but let's make a distinction between > newbies exploring the development of wiki skills, and interest in > collaboration. Positioned properly, any newbie can see the promise and > potential of collaboration....that may be why they joined in the first > place....Come to think of it, maybe we can adjust our Newbie survey and > subsequent ones....to gain insights into their ideas and motivations > underscoring collaborative intent and action. Let's harness and support > Otago's increasing momentum. > >> >> >> A tall order --- but based on our collective track record to date -- I >> know that we'll get this right. >> > > AND, there are many versions and nuances of "right", right? > >> >> >> Hey -- is going to be a fascinating if not historic year for us!!! >> > > UBET! > >> >> >> Cheers >> Wayne >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 09:51 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: >> >> Hi Randy, Wayne. >> >> I think Wayne sets out a realistic 3 steps. And for the most part I think >> we as a whole are taking those steps. A slight trouble (and risk) is that >> different people are at different stages in this flow. So while the L4C is >> focusing on Phase 1: Basic skills development in using the wiki a few of the >> early adopters are itching for Phase 3: Collaborative content development in >> achieving collective goals. Otago Polytechnic is an early adopter, and we >> itch for evidence of phase 3 because all too often we are having to justify >> our radically different approach to distance and online learning (using >> Wikieducator). I think we can handle this pressure, but it would be great to >> see some form of commitment (if resources permit it) to the facilitation of >> phase 3 opportunities. >> >> Randy seems to be in a position to facilitate some phase 3. A team of >> facilitators would be good. The webconferences might be a good way to gather >> steam around making phase 3 facilitation possible, but I suspect a more >> targeted and proactive facilitation effort is needed. >> >> Otago looked like it had something going in terms of a collaboration with >> Mauritius over our Tourism developments. Similarly with 2 people in the L4C >> who contributed to "our" HIV/AIDS content. But disappointingly, these have >> not progressed. Mostly because Otago people have not had the time or skills >> to begin communicating around collaboration - and so an experienced >> facilitator is needed. Someone who can mediate the initial stages of a >> collaboration. >> >> Randy's questions: >> >> * Define what your understanding of Collaboration is? >> * How do we propose to measure it, and over what intervals? >> >> Collaboration is evidenced by: >> >> - Sustained communication >> - Negotiated outcomes >> - Shared actions >> - Shared ownership >> - Shared outcomes >> >> This might be measured by: >> >> - The edit history of a page/s >> - The communication pages >> - The email list >> - Student exchange programs >> - Teacher exchange programs >> - Team teaching >> - Networked teaching and learning >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Randy, >> >> >> I'm very excited to see our community starting to think about ways to >> increase collaborative development. >> >> As an aside - I think that this is positive sign attesting to the >> dynamic nature of communities and how they mature over time. It's >> tempting to distinguish capability maturity phases for WE, for >> example: >> >> Phase 1: Basic skills development in using the wiki >> Phase 2:. Focus on content development for own use >> Phase 3: Collaborative content development in achieving collective >> goals >> >> So it seems that WE has reached the next phase of our evolution >> <smile>. These are exciting times and its great to be part of the >> early pioneers taking collective responsibility for building the >> future success of OUR project. This is well aligned with our strategy >> - because WE is now in the phase of scaling up content development. >> >> See: http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:About >> >> >> Cheers >> Wayne >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> Leigh Blackall >> +64(0)21736539 >> skype - leigh_blackall >> SL - Leroy Goalpost >> http://learnonline.wordpress.com >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > ________________ > Randy Fisher - Facilitating Change and Designing Sustainable Ecosystems to > Improve Performance- for People, Teams, Communities, and Organizations > http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Randyfisher > > + 1 604.684.2275 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.hirerandy.com > > Skype: wikirandy -- ________________ Randy Fisher - Facilitating Change and Designing Sustainable Ecosystems to Improve Performance- for People, Teams, Communities, and Organizations http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Randyfisher + 1 604.684.2275 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hirerandy.com Skype: wikirandy --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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