My little brain needs some help. If I distributed soemthing as a CC-BY- SA and somebody translated that work to Chinese wouldn't they be in violation of the CC-BY-SA license by selling it?
China does seem to support the CC-BY-SA, then of course I can't read Chinese so maybe Mainland China treats a CC-BY-SA differently. http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/cn/ On May 30, 7:58 am, Stephen Downes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hiya > > Just as an addendum, since you ask,> Still not sure I understand the meaning > of NC , and why NC is not good > > for free content ? > > This is a good example of why, in my view, the NC license is more 'free' > for content. > > Suppose OCW is licensed to allow commercial use. Some company comes > along and spends a lot of money to translate the materials into Chinese. > Then, in order to recover their investment, they sell the materials in > China. > > The result? > > - this remains the only translation into Chinese, since people say there > is 'no point' translating the materials a second time > - hence, for Chinese speakers, the *only* access to these materials is > through purchase > > I would add that if there is any danger of people producing free Chinese > versions of the materials, such a company would have a significant > incentive to block that effort. Such efforts are blocked in numerous ways: > > - the company will 'lock down' the content it distributed (in., eg., > proprietary formats, such as is used by the Kindle) so people can't > simply copy it > - the company would raise doubts about the quality of the free translation > - the company would obtain exclusive distributorship of the material in > Chinese markets, such as universities > - questions would be raised about the legality of the free translation > - if officials can be bribed, the people doing the free translation can > be harassed or imprisoned > - technical requirements (such as standards compliance, or content > registration, or digital rights enforcement) can be imposed on all > content, which only the commercial company can afford > > I could go on at length. > > The end result is, if content is licensed under 'CC-BY-SA', the result > is inevitably that the majority of people in the world must pay for > access to that content. And that is not what I call 'free'. > > -- Stephen > > > > > > > Thank you > > > Leo > > > 2008/5/30 Stephen Downes <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: > > > Hiya, > > > > MIT's OCW materials use the NC restriction and therefore do not > > qualify as free content under the free cultural works definition. The > > access may be open -- but they are certainly not free materials :-) > > > This is written as though it is a simple fait accompli. But there > > is a significant body of opinion (at least, to me) that says that > > materials may be 'free' and licensed as 'n on-commercial' -- and > > indeed, that when materials are used commercially (eg., sold) they > > are by definition *not* free. > > > -- Stephen > > > Wong Leo wrote: > >> Dear Wayne , could you please explain to me more about these NC > >> rules I am confused > > >> why MIT use it > > >> what is the difference ? > > >> Leo thank you > > >> 2008/4/9 mackiwg <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: > > >> A quick observation -- > > >> MIT's OCW materials use the NC restriction and therefore do not > >> qualify as free content under the free cultural works > >> definition. The > >> access may be open -- but they are certainly not free > >> materials :-) > > >> Visit the CC site to see which licenses are approved as free > >> cultural > >> works. > > >> Fortunately WE and the Wikimedia foundation projects have > >> been smart > >> enough to use free content licenses! > > >> Cheers > >> Wayne > > >> On Mar 30, 5:51 am, James Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > >> > MIT, Elsevier Offer Free Content From More Than 2,000 > >> > >> Journalshttp://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/about/media/elsevier_announce/elsevier_. > >> > >> <http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/about/media/elsevier_announce/elsevier_.>.. > > >> > CAMBRIDGE, Mass., Mar. 7, 2008 - In a move to encourage > >> open education, > >> > MIT OpenCourseWare (OCW) and Elsevier have agreed to make > >> available > >> > figures and text selections from any of Elsevier's more > >> than 2,000 > >> > journal titles for use on OCW. > > >> > As a result of this landmark agreement, select Elsevier > >> content can now > >> > be included within the open access OCW course materials - > >> to be freely > >> > downloaded, used and shared under a Creative Commons > >> license. The > >> > Elsevier content includes up to three figures (including > >> tables and > >> > illustrations) per individual article (or ten per journal > >> volume) and up > >> > to 100 words from a single text extract (or 300 words from > >> a series of > >> > extracts). > > >> -- > >> blog:http://leolaoshi.yo2.cn > >> HELP项目https://groups.google.com/group/helpelephantsliveproject > > > -- > > blog:http://leolaoshi.yo2.cn > > HELP项目https://groups.google.com/group/helpelephantsliveproject- Hide quoted > > text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator, go to: http://www.wikieducator.org To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
