Hi Leigh --- 

I agree!  I wonder if Chris @ SuperUser has a little time on his hands
to help out over at WE?

Chris -- the work you're doing on SuperUser is pretty inspiring - would
love to have you on our team ....

Cheers
Wayne




On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 13:38 +1300, Leigh Blackall wrote:
> Wow Chris! SuperUser is looking great! All MediaWiki too! Give this
> man a job... he is at where I hope Wikied will be at some day...
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Chris Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>         There's also a tag and tag cloud extension, you can see it in
>         use on my wiki on the mainpage
>         
>         http://superuser.com.au/Main_Page
>         
>         If you look on the following page you can see down the bottom
>         to "add tag" which is sort of the same as categories.
>         
>         http://superuser.com.au/News_aggregator_lesson
>         
>         Warm Regards
>         Chris
>         http://chris.superuser.com.au/
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 7:05 AM, Brent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>         wrote:
>         
>                 
>                 Categories are kind of like tags but categorizing
>                 something as [[Category:Valierieslist]] probably isn't
>                 that helpful to anyone besides Valerie :-) .. thats
>                 what the watchlist function is for. The De.licio.us
>                 tip is a good one, and as Leigh has suggested you can
>                 then embed the RSS from any del.icio.us tag back into
>                 a page off of your user page say as a way to keep
>                 track of pages you've "tagged/bookmarked" like this.
>                 It is also worth exploring the
>                 http://www.wikieducator.org/Special:RecentChanges page
>                 a bit. There is functionality in there to limit recent
>                 changes to just certain categories as well. I had been
>                 working somewhat on these as well:
>                 http://www.wikieducator.org/Portal:Primary but they
>                 still need quite a bit of work/content to be useful. 
>                 
>                 brent.
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Leigh Blackall
>                 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>                 
>                         Regarding Valerie's suggestion for a way to
>                         browse, and Maria's example of Flickr and
>                         tagging:
>                         
>                         Valarie - I agree, it would be nice,
>                         especially for when introducing the wiki to
>                         people.
>                         Maria - Welcome (nice to have another
>                         experienced social media user with us) good
>                         suggestions - I think the category feature in
>                         the wiki can be used as a kind of tagging
>                         system.
>                         
>                         When you come across a page that you think
>                         should be added to the browse list, simply
>                         click edit and type [[category:browselist]] or
>                         some other tag word. 
>                         If it is useful to you for something else, add
>                         perhaps add [[category:valerieslist]]. 
>                         These category tags will be added as links to
>                         the bottom of the page. When you click those
>                         links, you'll be taken to an index page where
>                         all the tagged pages are listed in
>                         alphabetical order. Now, at the techtonic
>                         shift way back, I asked the tech madician
>                         behind Wikied if we could apply a tag cloud
>                         look to the category feature which would give
>                         us a clearer idea of what category tags where
>                         popular.
>                         
>                         An alternative way to achieve this is to use
>                         Del.icio.us. Use it to bookmark and tag a
>                         wikieducator page. Go to Del.icio.us to view
>                         your list. When viewing your list, look for
>                         the RSS feed for that list. Take the URL for
>                         that RSS feed, and create a page on
>                         Wikieducator called "Browse List". Add that
>                         RSS feed to that page. After that RSS feed URL
>                         has had a few bits of wiki syntax added to it
>                         by me or anyone who knows how, then the page
>                         will display the Del.icio.us list right there
>                         on the page. This method is a type of third
>                         party media embed and can be done for video
>                         and audio as well.
>                         
>                         Personally, I think both methods are good -
>                         but I have a preference for Del.icio.us
>                         because it decentralises content a little. I
>                         am quite nervous about putting everything into
>                         the wiki and prefer to distribute across
>                         services as a type of backup plan - as well as
>                         broader range of digital literacy development.
>                         
>                         
>                         
>                         
>                         
>                         On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Patricia
>                         Schlicht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>                         
>                                 
>                                 Dear Valerie,
>                                 
>                                 Those are great thoughts, Valerie. Why
>                                 don't you add them to the Community
>                                 Portal for WikiEducator under the
>                                 appropriate to-do list.
>                                 
>                                 
> http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Community_Portal
>                                 
>                                 Thank you.
>                                 Warm regards,
>                                 Patricia
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 -----Original Message-----
>                                 From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com
>                                 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                                 On Behalf Of valerie
>                                 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:14 AM
>                                 To: WikiEducator
>                                 Subject: [WikiEducator] Re:
>                                 WIkiEducator 3.0 -- Asking the right
>                                 questions
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 I don't know if this is something new
>                                 that is needed or something that
>                                 already exists.
>                                 
>                                 What I would really like to do is
>                                 "browse" or "graze" through
>                                 WikiEducator - like flipping through a
>                                 magazine or a journal. I'm sure
>                                 there is lots of great stuff, but I
>                                 have yet to find a good way to see
>                                 the broad spectrum and stumble upon
>                                 stuff.
>                                 
>                                 Search isn't the answer, because I
>                                 don't know what I'm looking for but
>                                 I'll know it when I see it.
>                                 
>                                 What would be even better would be
>                                 some over layer / meta data layer -
>                                 sort of like social bookmarking but
>                                 just for WE content (at least for
>                                 now). I would like to hop
>                                 "sequentially" through all the WE
>                                 content -
>                                 start anywhere - see the high level
>                                 pages or a map that showed number
>                                 of links, child pages, last update,
>                                 creation date, tags, categories.
>                                 
>                                 I want to just scroll or click through
>                                 the list in some orderly but
>                                 quick way - browse! Like scanning the
>                                 Sunday New York Times. If I see
>                                 something of interest, I'd like to
>                                 note and tag it against my criteria
>                                 -  my subject/ classification,
>                                 remember to revisit,  and some general
>                                 site wide criteria - completeness,
>                                 readability.
>                                 
>                                 There are a couple of frustrations
>                                 with WE now, as I see it. I'm not
>                                 aware of any good, quick way to see
>                                 everything that is out there.
>                                 Finding the "good stuff" that is
>                                 complete enough for consideration as
>                                 an OER or Learning object is way too
>                                 hard.
>                                 
>                                 There are also some general WE
>                                 housekeeping issues - I know, I'm part
>                                 of the problem. Personal notes, brain
>                                 dumps, kernels of future
>                                 projects or topics of interest, or
>                                 worse - tried it and abandoned
>                                 pages. This is all interspersed with
>                                 fine materials that really should
>                                 be seen and promoted, both within WE
>                                 and the WE community and to a
>                                 global audience.
>                                 
>                                 It would be nice if this were easy. I
>                                 hope there are tools available
>                                 or forthcoming to address some of
>                                 these needs. Some of us see
>                                 ourselves as noders and linkers -
>                                 reviewing and classifying entries in
>                                 this great WE resource but lack the
>                                 tools to be effective.
>                                 
>                                 Are there tools available now? I did
>                                 review the WE 3.0 page, but I
>                                 didn't come away with too much on
>                                 questions like this - too process
>                                 oriented? Too far down the hierarchy
>                                 of issues?  Are they part of the
>                                 plan?
>                                 
>                                 ..Valerie
>                                 
>                                 On Oct 11, 4:01 pm, Wayne
>                                 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>                                 > Hi everyone,
>                                 >
>                                 > In a socially connected world it is
>                                 more beneficial to have the right
>                                 > questions than the right answers to
>                                 the wrong questions.
>                                 >
>                                 > I've been working on a WikiEducator
>                                 3.0 draft node. Please read through
>                                 > the summary provided on this page to
>                                 familiarise yourself with our
>                                 > current context:
>                                 >
>                                 >
>                                 
> http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:WikiEducator_3.0
>                                 >
>                                 > WE are inviting the community to
>                                 help us in brainstorming a list of the
>                                 > "right" questions for the third
>                                 phase of our strategic plan. Once
>                                 we've
>                                 > generated a reasonable list of
>                                 questions we will engage in discussion
>                                 > and reflection on whether we have
>                                 listed the right questions -- before
>                                 > we attempt to answer them :-). These
>                                 discussions will form the
>                                 > foundation of our operational plan
>                                 for Phase 3 of our strategic plan.
>                                 >
>                                 > Cheers
>                                 > Wayne
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 
>                         
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>                         --
>                         Leigh Blackall
>                         +64(0)21736539
>                         skype - leigh_blackall
>                         SL - Leroy Goalpost
>                         http://learnonline.wordpress.com
>                         http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Leighblackall
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> Leigh Blackall
> +64(0)21736539
> skype - leigh_blackall
> SL - Leroy Goalpost
> http://learnonline.wordpress.com
> http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Leighblackall
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