Hi Patricia, Apology, I see a typo in Eben's name in my post.
Eben is a law historian and academic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Moglen Cheers Wayne Typo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Moglen On 20 March 2010 11:35, Patricia Schlicht <[email protected]> wrote: > Pardon my ignorance, but could you perhaps explain who Eben Mogline is? > I have never heard his name before. > > Thanks, > > Patricia > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Wayne Mackintosh > *Sent:* Friday, March 19, 2010 3:19 PM > *To:* WikiEducator; > [email protected] > *Subject:* [WikiEducator] Fwd: [WE Council] Supporting WikiEducators in > walking the talk :-) > > > > Forwarding Valerie's great post and my response to all our lists on > collabOERate :-) > > Read on ... > > W > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Wayne Mackintosh* <[email protected]> > Date: 20 March 2010 11:09 > Subject: Re: [WE Council] Supporting WikiEducators in walking the talk :-) > To: [email protected] > > > HI Valerie, > > Great insights and questions. "Technical" interoperability is an important > dimension and I think Stephen is right to suggest using RSS feed mechanisms > to help widen access and break down OER silos. This will certainly help. I > also think that its important to build OERs collaboratively, to share OERs > and to collaborate on how to use them. We should be doing all this stuff. > > My concern with the OER silos is not related to OER interoperability per se > but rather the lack of collaboration in the international OER landscape that > seeks to build on the strengths and core competencies of individual > projects, eliminating unnecessary duplication in the co-opetion sense of the > word -- i.e. where we agree to work together so that all our projects get > better at what they do. > > - How many OER projects who are supposedly committed to the idea of > sharing, develop their funding proposals as open content? > - How many OER projects who are supposedly committed to the idea of > sharing, license their administrative and legal documents under open > licenses (eg membership agreements, policies etc) We could reduce wastage > and unnecessary duplication by an order of magniture by sharing these > resources. > - Do those of us working in OER really get and understand the meaning > of open? > > The emergent thinking about "collabOERate" for me, is more about fostering > the growth of the OER ecosystem. I think this is a behavioural change for > educators and organisations (as opposed to a technical interoperability). > > I think the notion of a network (recognising that this is a very restricted > metaphor to represent an ecosystem) can help to illustrate the opportunities > for change and future success of OER. > > Eben Mogline uses the analogy of pipes and switches to explain the > "network". Pipes carry the digital data between A and B. Pipes don't make > value judgements -- they just move the knowledge around. The switches (or > nodes in the network) make value judgements. They determine who gets access > to what, the price etc. The nodes regulate the stream and the flow of the > data and where the money gets invested to support projects. > > Think of OER as the pipes. Ideas, knowledge and educational materials that > want to be free :-). It shouldn't matter where the OER artefacts reside. > Think of the OER projects (silos) and their respective institutions as > switches in the network. These are the individuals and organisations that > control and regulate access to the OER. > > While I'm not a great fan of learning management systems, why does content > imported from an external source using the technical interoperability > specifications always look less elegant than the original content generated > within the respective system itself? W3C and TCP/IP are de-facto > interoperability standards of the network. So who is sitting round the table > determining the specifications like IMS? What are the interests and > motivations of the traditional distributors of knowledge in development of > these specifications? Ebin Moglins thoughts on the system of ownership of > ideas is well worth a look to help is think about what this means for OER. > Check out these three short videos: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN00_v7gpbo > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDFVAA_Mb5c > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlf_3JD3l8I > > CollabOERate is still a fledgling concept -- but I think its important for > us to ask ourselves about the behavioural change that is required to take > OER to new levels. > > - What are the the non-zero sum solutions to take OER to the next level > for all projects to become more efficient, successful and sustainable? > > Great conversation. > > Wayne > > > > > > > > > 20 March 2010 06:04, Valerie Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > > Are these projects concerned with building OERs collaboratively, > sharing OERs or collaborating on how to use them? > > Stephen Downes regularly writes about OER RSS feed mechanisms and the > like as a means to get around the problem of OER silos. Is that an > activity that would be within scope? > > ..Valerie > > > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Wayne Mackintosh > <[email protected]> wrote: > > HI Erik, > > > > LOL :-) > > > > We're getting serious about promoting collabOERation --- among OER > > initiatives. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "WikiEducator Community Council" group. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<wikieducator-community-council%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator-community-council?hl=en. > > > > -- > Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. > Director, > International Centre for Open Education, > Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. > Board of Directors, OER Foundation. > Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org > Mobile +64 21 2436 380 > User Page: http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg > Skype: WGMNZ1 > Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg > > > > > -- > Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. > Director, > International Centre for Open Education, > Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. > Board of Directors, OER Foundation. > Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org > Mobile +64 21 2436 380 > User Page: http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg > Skype: WGMNZ1 > Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator+ > unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE > ME" as the subject. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "WikiEducator Teacher Collaboration Forum" group. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-forum+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-forum%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-forum?hl=en > . > -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. 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