On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Surreptitiousness <[email protected]> wrote: > David Gerard wrote: >> I'm entirely unsure the arbcom isn't an idea whose time has run, at >> least in its present form - it needs a shakeup to avert the regulatory >> capture. >> > Hmmm. To do that I suppose you would have to create some rules on who > can run. Maybe bar admins from running for starters, that might reduce > the risk of arbcom siding with admins.
<snip> [Disclosure: I'm one of the currently serving arbitrators] As far as ArbCom siding with admins, I suggest you gather some data first. Look at the number of admins desysopped or otherwise sanctioned by ArbCom in previous years and then compare to this year (2009). That might give you a clearer picture of what is going on. From what I can tell, ArbCom have always aimed to I would also be *very* wary of reports from partisans of what ArbCom has done, or has been doing this year. Nearly every aggrieved party will spin things to present cases and incidents to suit their version of what happened. The actual truth of the matter may be very different. I'm not saying trust what ArbCom say they've done, but seek to verify yourself (from the original discussions and actions) what ArbCom and others are saying, and look to see whether those criticising ArbCom have a reason to present things in a particular light. Also remember that critics of ArbCom have more time to devote to spinning things their way. Individual arbitrators, and ArbCom as a whole, often don't have time to respond to protracted and drawn-out (over months and years sometimes) criticisms of previous or current decisions. That is a weakness of the model. The single-minded person can, through a process of continual misrepresentation without rebuttal, gradually wear people down and effectively rewrite the story of what happened. It is precisely that lack of time that means I don't intend to participate further in this thread, but if people do mention specific examples, please do look at what was said and done at the time, not what people are saying now. Carcharoth _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
