I think the feature would be much more likely to be accepted if it was
added and removed as suggested earlier. But then you'd need to test it
in a sandbox or something to make sure it works.

Richard

On 21/07/2013, Katie Chan <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's :NIEA ...
>
> Katie
>
>
> On 21 July 2013 20:32, Rod Ward <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lodewijk,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> NB would be templates for each country ie Template:EH listed building
>> header, Template:EH listed building row, Template:HS listed building
>> header, Template:HS listed building row, Template:Cadw listed building
>> header and Template:Cadw listed building row – I’ve not been able to find
>> the Northern Ireland ones yet.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Rod****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Lodewijk
>> *Sent:* 21 July 2013 19:37
>> *To:* Michael Maggs
>> *Cc:* [email protected]; Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph
>> Competition
>> *Subject:* Re: [Wlm2013-l] How will competitors access the upload wizard
>> from the English Wikipedia?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hi michael,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> actually this change would be fairly trivial. It would just be a matter
>> of
>> changing the mother template, and no need to 'fix' the individual pages -
>> assuming that they all use that template (which is necessary anyway).
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> The main bottle neck for showing upload links even when there is already
>> an image, is approval from the community, not the technical side. If need
>> be, you could make this change on August 30, and revert that early
>> October.
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hope that answers,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Lodewijk****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> 2013/7/21 Michael Maggs <[email protected]>****
>>
>> Oh dear!  See the thread below from the WLM International list.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> It seems to me that we really must have a direct image upload link built
>> in to the WLM template on en.W which works even where we have an image of
>> a
>> building already.  Part of the purpose of the competition is to encourage
>> new editors/uploads and we can't have a system that requires specialist
>> Wiki knowledge in every case where there is already an image.  We want
>> lots
>> of images of each building!****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> A question to those who know about bots: how difficult would it be to
>> change the template on en.W, and then run an update script over all the
>> the
>> pages that have been done so far?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I'm not sure where it would be best to add the upload link, but it
>> shouldn't be too intrusive as we may get resistance from the community.
>> Is the technology behind the template capable of having, for example, a
>> small '+" button which overlays any existing image and appears in the
>> right
>> hand corner?  Or can anyone come up with something better?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Regards to all.  It's looking good at the moment for the UK's first foray
>> into this competition!****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Michael****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:****
>>
>>
>>
>> ****
>>
>> *From: *Jean-Frédéric <[email protected]>****
>>
>> *Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How will competitors access the
>> upload wizard from the English Wikipedia?*****
>>
>> *Date: *19 July 2013 23:59:05 GMT+01:00****
>>
>> *To: *Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition <
>> [email protected]>****
>>
>> *Reply-To: *Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition <
>> [email protected]>****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hi Michael and all,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> You raise a good point ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *If there is no existing image of a buidling, clicking on the last column
>> goes to the upload wizard, but if there is already an image it seems the
>> competitor will need to do some manual work to find the listing code and
>> upload separately.   That is not good.
>>
>> What would you recommend? Have I missed something, or do we need to
>> change
>> the list template so that it always has some sort of visible upload
>> link?*
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Technically, this can be done easily. I guess it depends more on your
>> community - for example, on fr.wp, nobody really cared and Maarten (and
>> then I) just went ahead and tweaked the template ; I understand that on
>> en.wp the NRHP project had to jump through some hoops (because of some
>> placeholder policy there).****
>>
>>
>> So yeah, an upload link for each monument can definitely be added - you
>> just need to know if that is really what you want to have :)****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Frédéric****
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