On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Romaine Wiki <[email protected]>wrote:
> Perhaps the best place for talking about the banners of the CentralNotice > is at: > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/CentralNotice Discussion kicks off there! -- Karthik. > > > Romaine > > -------------------------------------------- > On Wed, 9/11/13, Lodewijk <[email protected]> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] drop off in submissions, banner > To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" < > [email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 7:45 PM > > (oh, and ps: probably native > countries like the US and GB work very differently than > non-native English countries. Here participate would > definitely resonate much better, and 'snap' would > only be confusing. But that is probably stating the > obvious) > > > > 2013/9/11 Lodewijk > <[email protected]> > > > I think there are two major factors in our > image count: > 1) new participants, people who never edited > before. 2) super uploaders, people with more > than 100 images > > > > The highest contribution to the number of images > is 2) by a leap. This is mostly people with a reservoir of > images - primarily in Spain, Poland and Germany. > The banner has primarily an influence on 1), > which is also important. I definitely wouldn't mind a > change in the banner, but I would suggest to let that > coincide with the drop of Privacy Policy (which was poorly > situated - the original plan was to run it in August). In > some other countries, there are more banners competing even > (like in NL, a conference banner with call for > speakers). > > > > Another way than the wording, is the > design. > I would suggest we continue this 'what is the > best banner' discussion on a talkpage somewhere, to keep > it consistent. Romaine, what would be a good location for > that? > > > > Lodewijk > > 2013/9/11 Michael > Maggs <[email protected]> > > > > Both > > > > "Snap a snapshot for > Wikipedia" and "It's a snap, Wiki Loves > Monuments" > > > > are the best I > have heard so far, and they would work in the UK as well as > the US. Maybe have them both running at 50% > ? > > > > Michael > > > > > > > On 11 Sep 2013, at 17:41, > Peter Ekman wrote: > I too have noticed a drop off in photos submitted > in the last few days. It's fairly important to > determine what caused the drop off if we can. It might be > something totally outside of our control, e.g. the situation > in Syria, but might be something like a change in banner > display, which we do have some control over. Did the drop > happen in most countries? We don't have full control > over all Wikimedia banners - we do have to share the space > with others, but perhaps they might be willing to delay some > of their displays if we ask nicely. > > > > > I do agree that changing the banner from > time-to-time can help. I don't agree that a banner of > ""Participate > in the world's largest photo-contest and > help Wikipedia," > would help any. The imperative verb > "Participate" is very weak, and is not natural to > American English speakers. It suggests a high school home > economics teacher telling us that we have to bring cookies > to the annual bake-off. Something more active is > definitely needed, something along the line (but not > exactly) of a high school football coach saying "Go out > there and kick some butt!" That would definitely get > some attention as a banner, but not the exact type of > attention we want. A teaser ad might work however, e.g. > "About your photos on Wikipedia .... (smaller type) > upload them to Wiki Loves Monuments" > > > > > > "Snap" > might be a verb we want to use. It gives an idea of the > action that we want people to take (snap a snapshot), unlike > "participate." So perhaps "Snap a historic > site, Wiki Loves Monuments" It could wake people up. Or > maybe "Snap a snapshot for Wikipedia". As a noun > "It's a snap, Wiki Loves > Monuments" > > > > > I don't > think these ideas are good enough yet for an actual banner, > but I think that folks should brain-storm this and come up > with new ideas. Straight informative banners can sound > bureaucratic or just boring. Different languages or > dialects should be considered separately, as translations > are really tricky, e.g. "It's a snap" might > mean something entirely different in British > English > > > > > PeteUser:Smallbones > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > > > > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >
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