I read it as being pushy, if not rude. Maybe a British humor thing we don't all get?
Matthew Sent from a mobile communication device. On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Michael Maggs <[email protected]> wrote: > It's not rude: it has a double meaning in English. Maybe this would not work > in other languages. > > Michael > > On 19 Sep 2013, at 16:59, Osmar Valdebenito wrote: > >> To me, it sounds very rude. >> I would say something reminding that we are on the last days of the >> competition and that you can still help Wikipedia and win... >> >> Osmar Valdebenito G. >> Director Ejecutivo >> A. C. Wikimedia Argentina >> >> >> 2013/9/19 Richard Symonds <[email protected]> >>> This sounds very sensible. >>> >>> Richard Symonds >>> Wikimedia UK >>> 0207 065 0992 >>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and >>> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered >>> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. >>> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia >>> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who >>> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). >>> Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control >>> over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. >>> >>> >>> On 19 September 2013 16:34, Michael Maggs <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> As there seems to be little international discussion about updating the >>>> CentralNotice text, I'm proposing in the next day or two to change the the >>>> text for the UK (only) to >>>> >>>> Where have you been? Send us some photos! >>>> >>>> If anyone objects, please let me know. >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12 Sep 2013, at 05:10, Karthik Nadar wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Romaine Wiki <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Perhaps the best place for talking about the banners of the >>>>>> CentralNotice is at: >>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/CentralNotice >>>>> >>>>> Discussion kicks off there! >>>>> >>>>> -- Karthik. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Romaine >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>>> On Wed, 9/11/13, Lodewijk <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] drop off in submissions, banner >>>>>> To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 7:45 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> (oh, and ps: probably native >>>>>> countries like the US and GB work very differently than >>>>>> non-native English countries. Here participate would >>>>>> definitely resonate much better, and 'snap' would >>>>>> only be confusing. But that is probably stating the >>>>>> obvious) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/9/11 Lodewijk >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I think there are two major factors in our >>>>>> image count: >>>>>> 1) new participants, people who never edited >>>>>> before. 2) super uploaders, people with more >>>>>> than 100 images >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The highest contribution to the number of images >>>>>> is 2) by a leap. This is mostly people with a reservoir of >>>>>> images - primarily in Spain, Poland and Germany. >>>>>> The banner has primarily an influence on 1), >>>>>> which is also important. I definitely wouldn't mind a >>>>>> change in the banner, but I would suggest to let that >>>>>> coincide with the drop of Privacy Policy (which was poorly >>>>>> situated - the original plan was to run it in August). In >>>>>> some other countries, there are more banners competing even >>>>>> (like in NL, a conference banner with call for >>>>>> speakers). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Another way than the wording, is the >>>>>> design. >>>>>> I would suggest we continue this 'what is the >>>>>> best banner' discussion on a talkpage somewhere, to keep >>>>>> it consistent. Romaine, what would be a good location for >>>>>> that? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Lodewijk >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/9/11 Michael >>>>>> Maggs <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Both >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Snap a snapshot for >>>>>> Wikipedia" and "It's a snap, Wiki Loves >>>>>> Monuments" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> are the best I >>>>>> have heard so far, and they would work in the UK as well as >>>>>> the US. Maybe have them both running at 50% >>>>>> ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Michael >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11 Sep 2013, at 17:41, >>>>>> Peter Ekman wrote: >>>>>> I too have noticed a drop off in photos submitted >>>>>> in the last few days. It's fairly important to >>>>>> determine what caused the drop off if we can. It might be >>>>>> something totally outside of our control, e.g. the situation >>>>>> in Syria, but might be something like a change in banner >>>>>> display, which we do have some control over. Did the drop >>>>>> happen in most countries? We don't have full control >>>>>> over all Wikimedia banners - we do have to share the space >>>>>> with others, but perhaps they might be willing to delay some >>>>>> of their displays if we ask nicely. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I do agree that changing the banner from >>>>>> time-to-time can help. I don't agree that a banner of >>>>>> ""Participate >>>>>> in the world's largest photo-contest and >>>>>> help Wikipedia," >>>>>> would help any. The imperative verb >>>>>> "Participate" is very weak, and is not natural to >>>>>> American English speakers. It suggests a high school home >>>>>> economics teacher telling us that we have to bring cookies >>>>>> to the annual bake-off. Something more active is >>>>>> definitely needed, something along the line (but not >>>>>> exactly) of a high school football coach saying "Go out >>>>>> there and kick some butt!" That would definitely get >>>>>> some attention as a banner, but not the exact type of >>>>>> attention we want. A teaser ad might work however, e.g. >>>>>> "About your photos on Wikipedia .... (smaller type) >>>>>> upload them to Wiki Loves Monuments" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Snap" >>>>>> might be a verb we want to use. It gives an idea of the >>>>>> action that we want people to take (snap a snapshot), unlike >>>>>> "participate." So perhaps "Snap a historic >>>>>> site, Wiki Loves Monuments" It could wake people up. Or >>>>>> maybe "Snap a snapshot for Wikipedia". As a noun >>>>>> "It's a snap, Wiki Loves >>>>>> Monuments" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't >>>>>> think these ideas are good enough yet for an actual banner, >>>>>> but I think that folks should brain-storm this and come up >>>>>> with new ideas. Straight informative banners can sound >>>>>> bureaucratic or just boring. Different languages or >>>>>> dialects should be considered separately, as translations >>>>>> are really tricky, e.g. "It's a snap" might >>>>>> mean something entirely different in British >>>>>> English >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> PeteUser:Smallbones >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wlm2013-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.wikimedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/wlm2013-l >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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