Michael, don't mistake page visits for uploads though We need to get people involved ... and the best way imho is still the personal approach, as described above
(+referrer stats only show part of your visitors) Groeten, Maarten 2013/9/20 Michael Maggs <[email protected]> > I can tell from the referrer stats for the UK site - > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org.uk - that the majority of visitors are > coming via the banner, mostly from the English Wikipedia, but a smattering > from other Wikipedias. The proportion coming via some other route is quite > small. > > Michael > > > On 20 Sep 2013, at 09:59, Maarten Deneckere wrote: > > I don't think we will gain that much new contributors using a more prominent > sitenotice. Most people just ignore it. Just ask friends and family, do > they read that message? > > I organised WLM both in Belgium and South Africa, and I have far better > experiences attracting people with a personal approach, eg. real life WLM > events, our mailing list, Facebook groups. > > Maybe we can use this mailing list to 'show of' / share more examples? > > To start of, Belgium will promote WLM during two events: next Monday > (Antwerp) and next Friday (upload marathon Gent).Any more events planned? > > Groeten, Maarten > > > > > 2013/9/20 Andrea Zanni <[email protected]> > >> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Michael Maggs <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> It's not rude: it has a double meaning in English. Maybe this would not >>> work in other languages. >>> >>> I think it's perfect :-) >> >> Aubrey >> >> >> >>> e, it sounds very rude. >>> I would say something reminding that we are on the last days of the >>> competition and that you can still help Wikipedia and win... >>> >>> *Osmar Valdebenito G.* >>> Director Ejecutivo >>> A. C. Wikimedia Argentina >>> >>> >>> 2013/9/19 Richard Symonds <[email protected]> >>> >>>> This sounds very sensible. >>>> >>>> Richard Symonds >>>> Wikimedia UK >>>> 0207 065 0992 >>>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England >>>> and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. >>>> Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, >>>> London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global >>>> Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia >>>> Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). >>>> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal >>>> control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* >>>> >>>> >>>> On 19 September 2013 16:34, Michael Maggs <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> As there seems to be little international discussion about updating >>>>> the CentralNotice text, I'm proposing in the next day or two to change the >>>>> the text for the UK (only) to >>>>> >>>>> Where have you been? Send us some photos! >>>>> >>>>> If anyone objects, please let me know. >>>>> >>>>> Michael >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12 Sep 2013, at 05:10, Karthik Nadar wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Romaine Wiki >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps the best place for talking about the banners of the >>>>>> CentralNotice is at: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/CentralNotice >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Discussion kicks off there! >>>>> >>>>> -- Karthik. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Romaine >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>>> On Wed, 9/11/13, Lodewijk <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] drop off in submissions, banner >>>>>> To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" < >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 7:45 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> (oh, and ps: probably native >>>>>> countries like the US and GB work very differently than >>>>>> non-native English countries. Here participate would >>>>>> definitely resonate much better, and 'snap' would >>>>>> only be confusing. But that is probably stating the >>>>>> obvious) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/9/11 Lodewijk >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I think there are two major factors in our >>>>>> image count: >>>>>> 1) new participants, people who never edited >>>>>> before. 2) super uploaders, people with more >>>>>> than 100 images >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The highest contribution to the number of images >>>>>> is 2) by a leap. This is mostly people with a reservoir of >>>>>> images - primarily in Spain, Poland and Germany. >>>>>> The banner has primarily an influence on 1), >>>>>> which is also important. I definitely wouldn't mind a >>>>>> change in the banner, but I would suggest to let that >>>>>> coincide with the drop of Privacy Policy (which was poorly >>>>>> situated - the original plan was to run it in August). In >>>>>> some other countries, there are more banners competing even >>>>>> (like in NL, a conference banner with call for >>>>>> speakers). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Another way than the wording, is the >>>>>> design. >>>>>> I would suggest we continue this 'what is the >>>>>> best banner' discussion on a talkpage somewhere, to keep >>>>>> it consistent. Romaine, what would be a good location for >>>>>> that? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Lodewijk >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/9/11 Michael >>>>>> Maggs <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Both >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Snap a snapshot for >>>>>> Wikipedia" and "It's a snap, Wiki Loves >>>>>> Monuments" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> are the best I >>>>>> have heard so far, and they would work in the UK as well as >>>>>> the US. Maybe have them both running at 50% >>>>>> ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Michael >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11 Sep 2013, at 17:41, >>>>>> Peter Ekman wrote: >>>>>> I too have noticed a drop off in photos submitted >>>>>> in the last few days. It's fairly important to >>>>>> determine what caused the drop off if we can. It might be >>>>>> something totally outside of our control, e.g. the situation >>>>>> in Syria, but might be something like a change in banner >>>>>> display, which we do have some control over. Did the drop >>>>>> happen in most countries? We don't have full control >>>>>> over all Wikimedia banners - we do have to share the space >>>>>> with others, but perhaps they might be willing to delay some >>>>>> of their displays if we ask nicely. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I do agree that changing the banner from >>>>>> time-to-time can help. I don't agree that a banner of >>>>>> ""Participate >>>>>> in the world's largest photo-contest and >>>>>> help Wikipedia," >>>>>> would help any. The imperative verb >>>>>> "Participate" is very weak, and is not natural to >>>>>> American English speakers. It suggests a high school home >>>>>> economics teacher telling us that we have to bring cookies >>>>>> to the annual bake-off. Something more active is >>>>>> definitely needed, something along the line (but not >>>>>> exactly) of a high school football coach saying "Go out >>>>>> there and kick some butt!" That would definitely get >>>>>> some attention as a banner, but not the exact type of >>>>>> attention we want. A teaser ad might work however, e.g. >>>>>> "About your photos on Wikipedia .... (smaller type) >>>>>> upload them to Wiki Loves Monuments" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Snap" >>>>>> might be a verb we want to use. It gives an idea of the >>>>>> action that we want people to take (snap a snapshot), unlike >>>>>> "participate." So perhaps "Snap a historic >>>>>> site, Wiki Loves Monuments" It could wake people up. Or >>>>>> maybe "Snap a snapshot for Wikipedia". As a noun >>>>>> "It's a snap, Wiki Loves >>>>>> Monuments" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't >>>>>> think these ideas are good enough yet for an actual banner, >>>>>> but I think that folks should brain-storm this and come up >>>>>> with new ideas. Straight informative banners can sound >>>>>> bureaucratic or just boring. Different languages or >>>>>> dialects should be considered separately, as translations >>>>>> are really tricky, e.g. "It's a snap" might >>>>>> mean something entirely different in British >>>>>> English >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> PeteUser:Smallbones >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wlm2013-l mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.wikimedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/wlm2013-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >
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