That's true:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Wikimania_scholars/Reviewer%27s_guide#Score_adjustment_for_previous_scholars
(that this is not the perfect system is well known to everyone in the
committee which, as Mardetanha said, changes every year—it's still very hard to
implement a process which does not favor these who are used to write good
applications if we don't draw lots).
We had to start the scholarship processes at some point due to visa
regulations, unfortunately before the program team could finish their process.
For that reason, the scholarship committee proposed to save some money for
people who could not hold their presentations without a scholarship. But in the
end, it's the WMF who thankfully manages all the outcomes and the jury only
evalutes the applications at some point.
Best,Martin/DerHexer
Von: Sjoerd de Bruin <[email protected]>
An: Wikimania general list (open subscription)
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Gesendet: 17:15 Freitag, 1.Juni 2018
Betreff: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 146, Issue 1
I think that is already included in scholarship applications, if I remember
correctly.
Greetings,
Sjoerd de Bruin
Op 1 jun. 2018, om 17:06 heeft Julie Workman <[email protected]> het
volgende geschreven:
Is there at present any metric by which previous scholarship attendees are
judged on their dissemination of Wikimania experiences after the conference?
The complaint being brought up is not only about awardees getting repeat
scholarships, but failing to enrich their communities afterwards with what they
learned / what it was like / who they met / what they will do now. With a
limited number of scholarships available, it is true that the attendees are
expected to share their good fortune with those who couldn't attend.
If nothing like that is in place, could it not be added? For example, a field
on the application: "were you awarded a scholarship last year (and attended)?"
"If yes, please describe (and provide links where possible) to the activities
and discussions you organised with your community regarding your experience at
Wikimania". If a sufficiently good and detailed response is not provided, the
application can receive a lower score (or possibly be discarded...? I'm not au
fait with the process).
Julia W
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Harry, I recall hearing that there was a push a year or two back to alter
the proportion of presentations at Wikimania so that there were fewer WMF
presentations and more community presentations. I don't know if that was a
one time event or if that's ongoing. I have never been to Wikimania, and
have no plans to go in the foreseeable future, but I watch what happens
with Wikimania partly because it's an expensive operation in terms of
financial cost and in terms of volunteer time. Also, the scholarship system
is a perennial point of friction.
Dariusz or Ellie, are there any thoughts at WMF about doing a full review
of the scholarship system and the value of Wikimania to the community? With
WMF spending so much money on Wikimania year after year, and volunteers
spending so much time on Wikimania year after year, I think that it would
make sense to do this type of review, which might be possible to
synchronize with WMF's strategy process. I am very interested in ensuring
that there are SMART goals being achieved with all of the money and time
that goes into Wikimania. At the same time, I think that the scholarship
system could be reviewed to consider the strategic priorities for
scholarships and how to align those priorities to SMART goals. I don't
envision reducing funding for Wikimania and scholarships, but I think that
some re-thinking and evaluation would be good to align funding with the WMF
strategic plan and with SMART goals.
Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/User:Pine )
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Harry Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote:
> Since you raise chapter scholarships, it would be nice to see some of the
> other big chapters (and to some extent the WMF) spending more on
> scholarships for rank-and-file Wikimedians rather than staff and board
> members. That might help with the perception that Wikimania is the same old
> faces year in, year out.
>
> Harry Mitchell
> http://enwp.org/User:HJ
> +44 (0) 7507 536 971
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I have attended several Wikimanias.
I would have thought that with the Wikipedias being voluntary contributed
and managed projects, that the conference shoud have a sharp focus on
attendance and presentations by the communities.
However, this is not the case. Presentation time is, IMO, excessively
allocated to various speakers from the salaried staff.
This has been brought up on several occasions.
In some instances, some presentations have had almost duplicate content.
Many Foundations take on a promotional aspect of the WMF’s work.
The credit for the entire movement should go to the community volunteers.
Kudpung
> On 01, Jun2018, at 08:31, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Harry, I recall hearing that there was a push a year or two back to alter the
> proportion of presentations at Wikimania so that there were fewer WMF
> presentations and more community presentations. I don't know if that was a
> one time event or if that's ongoing. I have never been to Wikimania, and have
> no plans to go in the foreseeable future, but I watch what happens with
> Wikimania partly because it's an expensive operation in terms of financial
> cost and in terms of volunteer time. Also, the scholarship system is a
> perennial point of friction.
>
> Dariusz or Ellie, are there any thoughts at WMF about doing a full review of
> the scholarship system and the value of Wikimania to the community? With WMF
> spending so much money on Wikimania year after year, and volunteers spending
> so much time on Wikimania year after year, I think that it would make sense
> to do this type of review, which might be possible to synchronize with WMF's
> strategy process. I am very interested in ensuring that there are SMART goals
> being achieved with all of the money and time that goes into Wikimania. At
> the same time, I think that the scholarship system could be reviewed to
> consider the strategic priorities for scholarships and how to align those
> priorities to SMART goals. I don't envision reducing funding for Wikimania
> and scholarships, but I think that some re-thinking and evaluation would be
> good to align funding with the WMF strategic plan and with SMART goals.
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/User:Pine <https://meta.wikimedia.org/
> wiki/User:Pine> )
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Harry Mitchell <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Since you raise chapter scholarships, it would be nice to see some of the
> other big chapters (and to some extent the WMF) spending more on scholarships
> for rank-and-file Wikimedians rather than staff and board members. That might
> help with the perception that Wikimania is the same old faces year in, year
> out.
>
> Harry Mitchell
> http://enwp.org/User:HJ <http://enwp.org/User:HJ>
> +44 (0) 7507 536 971
> Skype: harry_j_mitchell
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