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Chat Google Talk: ranjith.sajeev Skype: ranjith.sajeev On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 1:04 PM CS <[email protected]> wrote: > I concede your points, but people who don't want to be photographed at an > event which of its very nature is much photographed, just need to be aware > of that and stay out of range of the viewfinder. That is not a Herculean > task. > > Kudpung > > On 6 Aug 2018, at 13:45, Kevin Payravi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Indeed. Participants don't get the "no photo" lanyards because they are > embarrassed to be part of the movement. There are real and important > reasons participants desire not to be photographed. Some come from > countries where their participation on the movement is cause enough for > arrest. Others simply want to protect their identity online, whether it is > because they are a minor (minors do attend Wikimania), have cause to be > concerned for the privacy (prior harassment, stalking, etc.), or simply > value their privacy (which is valid enough reason by itself). > > As a global and inclusive movement, we work hard to accommodate all > participants and this is all part of meeting that goal. Naturally these > participants should avoid getting in the view of session recordings and > whatnot, but being concious of who is photographed isn't a Herculean task > and is a small ask to make to ensure a more welcoming, privacy-conscious > event. > > Kevin Payravi > SuperHamster @ en.wiki > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2018, 1:38 AM effe iets anders <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> This is going wildly of topic. But... >> The decency? >> >> I don't think i would agree with your characterization that people who >> don't like to give a carte blanche to everyone to publish (sometimes not >> very elegant) photos of them should treat themselves as second rank >> participants. >> >> Especially in the context of a discussion around a friendly space policy, >> i am of the opinion that this would be a dangerous direction. >> >> Lodewijk >> >> On Sun, Aug 5, 2018, 23:24 cs <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> In which case, those people should have the decency to not present >>> themselves anywhere where a photo shoot or video recording is very likely >>> to take place. Or politely take space at the back of the room and wear >>> a face mask. Personally, I don’t see why anyone should be embarrassed at >>> being part of a benevolent movement such as Wikipedia - have they >>> something disastrous to hide? In which case, perhaps they better not >>> go to Wikimania at all, and if they are scholarship recipients, give >>> their place over to someone else. >>> >>> Kudpung >>> >>> On 06, Aug2018, at 10:18, Gnangarra <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I was disappointed at the last Wikimania(london 2014) I went to with the >>> number of people wearing dont take my photo stickers taking up positions at >>> the front of the room or near speakers that made it hard to get images of >>> the room and record the event. >>> >>> On 6 August 2018 at 11:11, cs <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I’ve been to a great many international conferences in my career >>>> - but not so many since I retired. I can’t recall people wearing >>>> ‘Don’t touch me’, ‘Don’t photo me’, ‘Don’t come near me’, ‘Don’t talk >>>> to me’ badges. Do they do it nowadays already? >>>> >>>> We’ll porbably never know the details of the incident that sparked >>>> all this off but do I think it is getting out of proportion. >>>> >>>> Kudpung >>>> >>>> On 04, Aug2018, at 02:07, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks, James. I think that "clarifying the distinction between >>>> friendly spaces situations and Trust & Safety issues" is a good idea. >>>> >>>> A specific suggestion that was made earlier in this thread which >>>> sounded like a good idea to me was to have an indicator, somewhat like we >>>> currently do for "Photos OK" or "Photos not OK", for "friendly touch OK" or >>>> "friendly touch not OK". >>>> >>>> I would also like to see the upcoming review of the relevant policies >>>> include discussions of who should be responsible for them (I'm confused >>>> about why WMF is in charge of these issues at events instead of the local >>>> organizers) and the level of transparency regarding reports and >>>> investigations. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your attention to these issues. >>>> >>>> Pine >>>> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> GN. >>> Noongarpedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/nys/Main_Page >>> WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra >>> Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com >>> Out now: A.Gaynor, P. Newman and P. Jennings (eds.), *Never Again: >>> Reflections on Environmental Responsibility after Roe 8*, UWAP, 2017. 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