On 01/06/2019 19:44, effe iets anders wrote:
You're claiming that this year is a higher rate than usual, I don't
think this is actually true. Some context:
- 2016: 500 euro, but this included accommodation and full board
- 2017: 315 CAD (~233 USD)
- 2018: 275 USD
2016 is indeed when it first went up, but even then the 500€ value was
fairly consistent with how much one could expect the whole thing to cost
when including fairly decent food and accommodation. What was concerning
was that then the cost stayed relatively high, without any of the
included stuff - if the 250€ is only the registration price, there's not
much to decouple. For instance, is there any food to not include? Lunch
being included has pretty much always been standard, for good reason,
and we're not doing breakfast and dinner for everyone in the first
place, are we? (As I recall, 2015 did include dinner, though, which may
indicate part of why it was also more expensive.) And even in terms of
fanciness, I'm not sure how much value that has, or if they even have
been meaningfully more so than they used to be. Comparing to the
Wikiconference USA/NA events I attended some of the same years (I don't
think any were over $50, definitely not more than $100), the Wikimanias
were mostly just... bigger. Higher volume.
For reference, prior wikimanias cost the following for Wikimedians:
2015: $95
2014: £50.00
2013: $45
2012: $35
2011: $45
2010: 30-40€
2009: $45
2008: $45
2007: $40-60
2006: $90
2005 I can't find, but it was the first and thus organised a bit differently
So what happened? How is 250€ now not a lot of money? The first
Wikimania I attended was in 2012 and my entire budget was $500, which
was basically my holiday budget for the year. I was a student from a
poor background, and a lot of our contributors are students. Quite a few
of our contributors aren't exactly upper class, or from countries with
great conversion rates. Should we really be requiring them to get
special support now to even register for the main event for what is
supposed to be a world-wide, inclusive movement?
250€ is a quite a lot of money. Other things to attend may still cost
around the same or more, but if we also need to spend it on those
things, we're not going to have that money left to spend on the
registration as well.
-I
https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Registration
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/wikimania-2014-registration-11063436035
https://wikimania2010.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Registration
https://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org/wiki/Registration (and the same page
on other years)
https://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Registration&oldid=5931
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