Why a nice idea 😿

On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 10:41 PM Evelin Heidel <[email protected]> wrote:

> +1 to what Philip & Jan-Bart shared. Maybe we should have a Wikimania
> every 2 years instead of every year, particularly given that we do have
> some more specialized conferences (Wiki Education, GLAM Wiki,
> Wiki+Libraries, among others) alongside with the regional meetings, that
> allow for a continued conversation.
>
>
>
> El lun, 20 mar 2023 a las 16:05, Philip Kopetzky (<
> [email protected]>) escribió:
>
>> I can only second what Jan-Bart has written. There already seems to be a
>> change in the way people attend Wikimania. Many communities from Europe
>> won't send anyone to Singapore, but will probably attend Krakow.
>>
>> Wouldn't it be time to acknowledge the change in format towards a
>> regional conference with an international focus, rather than a global event
>> where we fly a few hundred people in for a few days, in times where
>> pandemics and global climate emergencies don't seem as far off as they did
>> even 5 years ago?
>>
>> Best regards, Philip
>>
>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 18:58, Jan-Bart de Vreede <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> Thanks Phoebe and the Wikimania Steering Committee for organising the
>>> selection process and of course congratulations to the team in Poland who
>>> are going to organise a great Wikimania.
>>>
>>> (Disclaimer: I have been privileged enough to have been able to attend
>>> many a WIkimania, and am perhaps one of the worst people in the world to
>>> write the text below)
>>>
>>> Reading your comment on hopefully announcing the Wikimania hosts for
>>> 2025 and 2026 soon makes me wonder if we are not overlooking a fundamental
>>> discussion with regards to the continued existence of Wikimania as it
>>> currently takes place. Are we going to continue to annually organise a
>>> global event, flying people from all over the world to a location which
>>> limits physical participation to those that are able to do so (regardless
>>> of the few scholarships we manage to distribute for volunteers)?
>>>
>>> Would it not be a good idea to start with revisiting our goals (for
>>> example: reconnecting, exchanging experiences and sharing cool projects)
>>> and start thinking of alternatives to the current Wikimania set up? It
>>> would also be interesting to match these goals with the increase in
>>> regional engagement which is taking place across our movement.
>>>
>>>  I have the feeling I might have missed some earlier discusion on this,
>>> but I am not seeing much change in the Wikimania concept in a time that
>>> probably demands change both from a sustainability as well as an equity
>>> perspective.
>>>
>>> And again I am probably not the best person to point this out (coming
>>> from an incredibly privileged position) and I love wikimania and I love
>>> seeing all of you on a regular basis… but at the same time I have noticed
>>> that we are all trying to adjust to a changing world…and it would seem that
>>> a movement as unique as ours should be able to come up with a better
>>> alternative?
>>>
>>> I hope that people take this mail in the spirit that it is intended and
>>> if I can contribute to facilitating this discussion I am of course more
>>> than willing to do so!
>>>
>>> Jan-Bart de Vreede
>>> (Views expressed in this email are my personal views)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20 Mar 2023, at 16:32, phoebe ayers <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I am very excited to share that Wikimania 2024 will be hosted in the
>>> city of Kraków in Poland <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krak%C3%B3w>!
>>> [1] Kraków had a strong submission
>>> <https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2024:Expressions_of_Interest/Central_Eastern_Europe,_Poland,_Cracow>
>>> with a collaborative design and an experienced, enthusiastic team
>>> supporting it [2]. At the crossroads of history, culture, and technology,
>>> we are confident that the impact of Wikimania will be great for our
>>> projects, the movement in general, and especially, local communities in the
>>> Central and Eastern European (CEE) region. Read more on Diff
>>> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/03/20/announcing-the-host-of-wikimania-in-2024/>
>>> [3].
>>>
>>> Bringing our movement’s beloved event to life is not simple and we took
>>> many criteria into consideration. We were grateful for the expressions
>>> of interest
>>> <https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_2024_expressions_of_interest>
>>> received for hosting Wikimania in 2024, 2025, and beyond [4]. Announcing
>>> host cities this far in advance is a new approach
>>> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2022/10/27/wikimania-welcoming-expressions-of-interest-for-2024/>
>>> to organizing Wikimania we are exploring [5]. In addition to the support we
>>> provide as the stewards of Wikimania
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_Committee>, together with
>>> the Foundation’s Movement Communications team
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Movement_Communications>,
>>> we see great value in facilitating more time for organizers so they can
>>> learn from each other in practice and strengthen their capacity [6], [7].
>>> We hope to announce the hosts of Wikimania in 2025 and 2026 in the coming
>>> months or at Wikimania 2023 in Singapore.
>>>
>>> Once again, wholehearted congratulations to the 2024 Wikimania team. We
>>> know you will do an excellent job welcoming our global family to your
>>> timeless city. And to our global family, we hope that you are as excited as
>>> we are returning to the vibrant CEE region after 14 years. Looking forward
>>> to collaborating with you all on wiki and in person.
>>>
>>> My best wishes for all,
>>> Phoebe (Wikimania Steering Committee)
>>>
>>> On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee and the Wikimedia
>>> Foundation Movement Communications team
>>> Translations available on Diff
>>>
>>> [1] Kraków is a hybrid gem of history and modernity:
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krak%C3%B3w
>>> [2] Kraków expression of interest:
>>> https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2024:Expressions_of_Interest/Central_Eastern_Europe,_Poland,_Cracow
>>>
>>> [3] Read more about this announcement on Diff:
>>> https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/03/20/announcing-the-host-of-wikimania-in-2024/
>>>
>>> [4] 11 expressions of interest received:
>>> https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_2024_expressions_of_interest
>>>
>>> [5] The call for hosting Wikimania in 2024, 2025 and beyond:
>>> https://diff.wikimedia.org/2022/10/27/wikimania-welcoming-expressions-of-interest-for-2024/
>>>
>>> [6] The Wikimania Steering Committee:
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_Committee
>>> [7] The Wikimedia Foundation Movement Communications team
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Movement_Communications
>>>
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