Oops, I forgot to include the link, just in case!

http://wikiconferenceusa.org/wiki/Cascadia_Meetup

Jason


On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Jason Moore <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Bumping this thread to confirm the Cascadia Meetup this afternoon
> (4-5:30pm) in Room W300 at WikiConference USA. We will be discussing the
> possibility of user group status. Pine, Mako, I understand that the two of
> you are committed to signing on as supporters of the Cascadian Wikimedians
> User Group. I, too, am willing to sign on, and there are a few people here
> at the conference from Portland, Washington State and British Columbia,
> some of whom may also be interested. We will see what happens this
> afternoon, but perhaps we can at least come up with a solid plan to obtain
> user group status ASAP.
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Kirill Lokshin <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Lane Rasberry <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hello,
>>>
>>> The easiest way to incorporate in Washington is to get the minimum
>>> number of people, I think 5, and then just fill out the online form.
>>>
>>> To get 501(c)(3) if an organization has been registered for three years
>>> without failing the yearly report or having members go wild, then the bar
>>> to get non-profit status is greatly lowered.
>>>
>>> If I were to propose a route going forward, it would be this:
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. As soon as three supporters are identified, send an email
>>>    requesting usergroup status. There is really no review process for this 
>>> and
>>>    it is just something that is granted on request. The group's history far
>>>    exceeds expectations of applicants.
>>>
>>> I should point out that this isn't really the case.  While the review
>> process for user groups is simpler and shorter than the review process for
>> chapters, there *is* a review.  Depending on whether there will be bylaws
>> that need to be reviewed (which may be the case if the user group is going
>> to incorporate), I would expect the review to take anywhere from a few
>> weeks to a month or two.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>    1. If five supporters can be identified to sign on to incorporate,
>>>    apply as a non-profit organization and operate indefinitely with no 
>>> budget
>>>    and few projects. Have the work of the chapter be endorsement of
>>>    community-organized events, and possibly oversight of coffee funding 
>>> which
>>>    is accepted not by the chapter but by an individual organizer if funds 
>>> are
>>>    ever needed at all.
>>>
>>> One other option that you may want to consider is that of fiscal
>> sponsorship through another Wikimedia affiliate, whether or not you
>> incorporate.  For example, Wikimedia DC recently set up a fiscal
>> sponsorship arrangement with the New England Wikimedians user group, in
>> which WMDC will hold the user group's funds in one of our bank accounts and
>> take care of disbursements, expense reimbursement, and financial
>> bookkeeping and reporting for the user group.  If something along these
>> lines is of interest, I'm certain WMDC would be happy to assist Cascadia as
>> well.
>>
>>>
>>>    1. If five people either want non-profit status and wish to pay
>>>    $2500 or seek pro bono filing, then they could do that. Otherwise if the
>>>    five supporters just wait three years after filing the price and 
>>> complexity
>>>    goes way down and they could do the paperwork themselves. Otherwise, the
>>>    organization could persist indefinitely without nonprofit status and so
>>>    long as it never touched money there would be no concerns.
>>>
>>> Is there actually a change at the three-year mark with regard to the
>> federal 501(c)(3) filing, or is this something specific to non-profits in
>> Washington?  The IRS has done away with the preliminary/final
>> determinations for public charity status; and, as far as I was aware, that
>> was the only real difference for organizations filing earlier or later.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kirill
>>
>> --
>> Kirill Lokshin
>> Secretary | Wikimedia District of Columbia
>> http://wikimediadc.org | @wikimediadc
>>
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