Hello Justice,

It's frustrating for an article to be deleted after several hours (or days)
of work. I am sorry to learn about this particular deletion.

You can ask for the content to be restored as a draft or emailed to you so
that it can be improved upon prior to submitting it again (assuming the
only issue is the "promotional tone").[1]

"It's been deleted before" is certainly not a valid reason for deletion but
it does looks like the content was indeed promotional at least from the
comments of several experienced editors (including an administrator) who
commented on the AfD

In the future, if a page is AfD'd, it's not advisable to jump in to argue
that it should be kept immediately. Consider that the nominator and others
arguing for it to be deleted might be right. So, try to review the article
again and remove what might appears to be a "peacock tone", then look for
more sources that establish the subject's notability and add it to the
article prior to commenting on the deletion discussion.

If you just go to the AfD to argue without doing what I mentioned above,
chances are that some AfD patrollers would review the problematic or
promotional version and support deletion and may cause others to just
pile-on.

Regards

Isaac

[1]. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Refund&redirect=no

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020, 15:13 Justice Okai-Allotey, <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Asaf,
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have a save text of the article I wrote for Michael
> Aboya and no I wasn't paid to edit that article, I made a judgement of
> notability from what I saw about him online.
>
> Also, I made sure everything I wrote was from a neutral point of view, I
> sent it to a few experienced editors in our community to check my text if I
> had missed something and from the response, I got it wasn't promotional.
> For Michael Aboya I found so many articles from secondary sources speaking
> about him but it still got deleted because to those editors he should have
> done something major. He won a global photography competition so I thought
> that is something noteworthy to write about.
>
> I would be glad to get a refresher on NPOV but a lot of the times it has
> more to do with Notability and how to determine it within the several
> contexts.
>
> Regards,
> Justice.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 1:57 PM Asaf Bartov <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> As the article has already been deleted, I can't see and judge for
>> myself.  But there was mention of promotional language in the discussion
>> about Michael Aboya, at least.  Was there indeed promotional language?  If
>> so, how come?  I know for a fact you know how to write NPOV text, because I
>> remember personally demonstrating it in Ghana, with you in the room.  Was
>> indeed a paid editing job?  Did you not notice you were using non-NPOV
>> language?
>>
>> (If it's the latter, I am happy to offer a call where we can go over this
>> again -- perhaps even fix the article, if you have a saved copy -- to make
>> sure future efforts of yours don't end up with text that is
>> encyclopedically unacceptable.)
>>
>> I'm interested in helping resolve this.  Obviously, resolving this can't
>> require breaking Wikipedia's rules, though.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>    A.
>>
>> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>>
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>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 4:00 PM Justice Okai-Allotey <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I started a conversation on our Telegram chat group about getting my
>>> articles (User:Owula kpakpo) tagged for deletion by one editor (
>>> User:Versace1608 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Versace1608>) and
>>> other editors like (User:Kwamevaughan) also expressed same sentiments about
>>> getting articles his written tagged for deletion.
>>>
>>> In other to settle this and get a community response to such issues in
>>> the future and how we can settle issues of notability criteria within our
>>> contest as Ghanaians. Another volunteer (User:Enock4seth) asked that it be
>>> shared here so we can properly document such discussions for later.
>>>
>>> Find links to the various articles under scrutiny below. Also, feel free
>>> to add any further information to this discussion so we can properly deal
>>> with it moving forward.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Justice.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>>  
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:B4bonah
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:B4bonah>
>>> [2]
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Ghana
>>> [3]
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Camidoh
>>> [4]
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Michael_Aboya
>>>
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