How about you shut your mouth and stop insulting volunteer from other projects that you just don't know. Really that would spare a lot of time to everyone here on this mailing list.
2014-05-13 21:39 GMT+02:00 Kevin Gorman <kgor...@gmail.com>: > Pete: there's not really any point in making this thread a laundry list of > times that admins and crats on commons fucked up vs times they didn't fuck > up. There are plenty of historical decisions on Commons that I agree > wholeheartedly with. There have even been cases where I advanced arguments > in deletion nominations that I honestly didn't expect to be accepted that > were, including one instance where someone who initially voted keep took > the time to go ahead and read the laws of the country the photograph was > taken in w/r/t identifiable people and changed his vote. Instances like > that are absolutely commendable, but they're also far from universal. > Admins and crats on commons have also historically made a large number of > decisions that fly in the face of WMF board resolutions, often repeatedly. > Commons doesn't speak with a unified voice, but people with advanced > userrights on Commons do speak with a louder voice than the rest of the > community, in that they have the ostensible authority to actually carry out > their actions. A project where people with advanced userrights fairly > regularly make decisions that fly in the face of WMF board resolutions and > are not censured by their peers is a project with problems. > > David: I haven't seen anyone assert that the image in question isn't a > violation of the principle of least astonishment. I've seen several people > suggest the image was acceptable for other reasons. If you can articulate > a reasonable (i.e., not full of snark and one that indicates you've read at > least most of the ongoing discussion) argument that putting the image in > question on Commons frontpage (and the frontpage of numerous other projects > in the process,) is not a violation of the principle of least astonishment, > I'd love to hear it. Especially if you craft your argument to recognize > the fact that the image was both displayed on projects that didn't speak > any of the languages it was captioned in, and given that most Wikimedia > viewers can't actually play our video formats. I guess you could argue > that the resolution only says that the board "supports" the POLA rather > than requires it, but that's a rather weak argument for putting a grainy > black and white stack of dead corpses linking to a video many can't play > that's only captioned in a handful of langauges on the frontpage of a > project that serves projects in 287 different languages. > > ---- > Kevin Gorman > > > On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:14 AM, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 13 May 2014 05:04, Kevin Gorman <kgor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > No, Russavia: I'm not suggesting that Commons' policies should mirror > > those > > > of ENWP. I'm suggesting that Commons should have a process in place > that > > > ensures that it follows the clearly established resolutions of the WMF > > > board, which I would remind you *do* trump local policy. This > particular > > > incident failed to do so, and it's not the first time that such a thing > > has > > > occurred on Commons. > > > > > > See, there you're asserting that this is a slam-dunk violation, and > > it's really clear just from this thread that it really isn't. Your > > personal feelings are not the determinant of Wikimedia comment, and > > won't become so through repetition. > > > > > > - d. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- Pierre-Selim _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
