MF-Warburg, that came across as a bit rude... On 11 Aug 2014 00:29, "MF-Warburg" <mfwarb...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Your mail is embarrassing. > If you think the foundation is like the parent of the community, you don't > understand anything about the foundation nor the community. > Am 11.08.2014 00:05 schrieb "John Lewis" <johnflewi...@gmail.com>: > > > The people who were actually responsible were the community. Erik was > > acting in a preventative role to prevent further disruption not punish > > administrators. The community. couldn't take no for an answer and what > has > > happened? > > > > * Wheel/edit wars > > * A new user right to prevent disruption > > * A priviledge has been revoked on dewiki > > * A user has been desysoped by the community for no reason on dewiki > > > > And who are we blaming? Erik. Why? Because we are a bunch of stubborn > > children. We don't get what we want so we are kicking and screaming to > get > > it but in the end; we don't and we then accuse our parent (WMF) of being > > too harsh, mean and taking away something we like but do not deserve. > > > > To be honest - until we as a community learn we are not the overlords, > the > > masters, god of > > Wikimedia, we can work to building a real encyclopedia with awesome > feature > > where are all work in a good environment and get on as a community and > > Foundation. > > > > I am not saying the WMF is perfect and is not in the wrong; they > certainly > > have some blame to take and I will come onto that shortly, but we can not > > blame the Foundation for revoking something we clearly do not deserve. > > > > > > > Erik, While I will say you have not been communicating stuff the best you > > can and this new user right was proxy deployed by Tim and an advocate and > > not your self - you mean well and I see this. I agree with everything you > > have done so far as a matter of fact. > > > > Fabrice, Have you attempted to start any discussions with communities in > > exactly why they don't want Media Viewer and how exactly it causes so > much > > dispute that it requires Erik to proxy intervene? It not, please do so. > > > > In a short conclusion - I feel both parties have acted inappropriately > and > > our bitching at each other does far than solve it. The WMF had to > implement > > a new right and revoke dewiki's access to their site wide js page because > > of their refusal to accept what the WMF said and want to create a > > performance killer hack to 'fix it' at the cost of performance. Why did > > dewiki have to do this? The WMF refusing to disable Media Viewer. From > what > > I see, the WMF have backed up by they refused to do this for Wikipedias > and > > their compromise for Commons is acceptable. I have yet to see a valid > > reason why Media Viewer exactly makes Wikipedia go into a 'OMG UNUSABLE > > DISABLE IT FUCKING NOW OR I WILL' state. Media Viewer allows you to view > > and images without leaving the page - reducing load time for both users > and > > the WMF. It is hardly the beginning if the end for images. > > > > If we take a quick look at the statistics - 64 voted against Media Viewer > > on the English Wikipedia while 6kish users enabled it, this shows 1.1% > > consensus for disabling the extension in a whole. > > > > I will not ramble on any more. I just ask the community to stop bitching > at > > the WMF and accept their decision. Until then - I fully support Erik > super > > protecting every single js and CSS page on every wiki as most Sysop I > feel > > are technically incompetent. > > > > John Lewis > > > > > > > > -- > > John Lewis > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
