On 21/08/14 13:24, Risker wrote:
On 21 August 2014 09:18, Yaroslav M. Blanter <pute...@mccme.ru> wrote:
For me the conclusion would be not that we should drop them altogether in
the mobile version (most of them are useful navigation means after all) but
that the mobile version should be improved to parse them and to present
them as a piece of plain text, not as a template.
Many of these templates have over 100 links in them; a surprisingly large
number have "subtemplates" built into them. I'm having a hard time seeing
how adding all those links at the bottom of an article is actually going to
help that much. Unless we have some evidence to confirm this information is
actually useful to readers -seriously, this is a community-designed feature
targeted at readers as opposed to editors - it's probably time to rethink
what indirectly related information on our article pages is made routinely
available. We want people to use our information, not give up because it
takes too long to load.
Risker/Anne
Man, I forgot how over the top some projects get with their navigation
templates. But what Yaroslav said might actually provide a good
guideline - if they CAN be reasonably simplified, then the templates
themselves are probably reasonable. If not, they need to be fixed.
Just hiding them isn't the solution - the templates themselves need to
be made more realistic, because while they may be a bit overwhelming on
the desktop (I mean, I looked at [[red]] and was overwhelmed by the
bottom of the page), the issues they present on mobile devices should be
a real incentive. But if you just hide them, that removes the incentive
to fix them up. That doesn't make much sense to me.
-I
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