Are you in? Or are you out? That is the question.
Lila P.S. If you'd like to talk about operational efficiency and quality of software manufacturing -- please start a thread on that. We are deep into working on that here, so would be happy to share the love! On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Because of that, I am very happy to see somebody with courage and > > integrity in the top management. Such person has much larger potential > > to create the momentum and build community enthusiasm again. > > > > > Is someone saying "I have courage and integrity" all it takes to convince > you that they are indeed possessed of those qualities? Every politician > says that. I'd reserve judgment and wait to see their performance. > > Besides, what has been lacking is not courage. Creating the Superprotection > feature, pressing ahead with the Flow concept in the face of massive > community skepticism and rolling out a very poorly implemented VisualEditor > undoubtedly took courage of a sort. > > What's been lacking is an ability to convince the community through > argument rather than the exercise of power, an ability to understand the > community's needs and concerns, and sheer old-fashioned engineering > competence – something the VisualEditor signally failed to demonstrate. > > Jimmy Wales acknowledged that there have been huge problems. Recently, a > Wikipedian quoted the following to him on his talk page: > > *“The Foundation has a miserable cost/benefit ratio and for years now has > spent millions on software development without producing anything that > actually works; the feeling is that the whole operation is held together > with the goodwill of its volunteers and the more stupid Foundation managers > are seriously hacking them off”,* > > Wales replied[1] (my emphasis), > > *“Other than the extreme nature of the comment (‘without producing > ANYTHING’ is too strong) why do you think I would disagree with that? This > is precisely the point of the new CEO and new direction – to radically > improve the software development process. That statement, while too strong, > is indeed an accurate depiction of what has gone wrong. I’ve been > frustrated as well about the endless controversies about the rollout of > inadequate software not developed with sufficient community consultation > and without proper incremental rollout to catch showstopping bugs.”* > I don't want to be unduly churlish to Damon, who deserves his welcome here > like any new team member, but given the above background I personally would > have appreciated an intimation from Damon that he is aware of the problems > to date, that roll-outs will be handled more competently on his watch, and > that the community will not be presented with substandard software again. > > [1] > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=next&oldid=623290066 > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
