Interestingly I've just received a fundraising email localised to the UK which doesn't offer any opportunity to give by direct debit. This is the main form of regular giving in the UK, and the alternative that is offered (regular gifts via credit card) is generally deprecated as it gives the donor far less control over their money.
I know the WMF used to have a solution to handle more payment methods - I wonder if that's been discontinued for reasons of cost/simplicity? (The email also doesn't appear to include any of the learning about the right ask amounts to ask for monthly gifts in the UK from the 2011 campaign but that might be my fault for not publishing those results ;) ) On 22 Nov 2014 07:42, "Lodewijk" <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote: > It seems everyone agrees it is an important method (although I'm not 100% > sure that the US based people running the fundraiser fully comprehend - I > am assuming this is the case), but there seems to be some reason why the > WMF chooses to not make this option easily available. A reason they choose > not to disclose, but to be fuzzy about. I'm very sorry about this, and as > Liam says, this fits in a trend with the Russian people no longer being > allowed to donate. Maybe the two are connected, but this is all > speculation. > > I'm sorry to see these steps back from the more open attitude there was a > few years back. It feels very much that we are, as a community, being fed > canned press answers. But then, maybe there's a real need for that and > there's a huge legal threat to making it easy to donate through bank > transfer that cannot be disclosed... > > Best, > Lodewijk > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Kim Bruning <k...@bruning.xs4all.nl> > wrote: > > > > > To amplify: > > > > Paying (business) taxes in The Netherlands now pretty much requires > > electronic payment to an IBAN Account; a.k.a. it is (now) the standard, > > default, baseline way to make payments at all. > > > > After registering a business, the very next action is to open an (IBAN) > > account. All extant dutch accounts that predate IBAN have been converted > > to IBAN. All administration systems (must(!)) support IBAN. > > > > If you want to do business in the Netherlands, you need to support IBAN. > > > > Note that many (most?) dutch citizens do not have credit cards or paypal > > accounts. > > > > Further, IBAN is standardized throughout the euro-zone. > > > > iDEAL is nice to have and important. IBAN is a minimal baseline > > requirement. > > > > sincerely, > > Kim > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:42:31PM +0100, Walter Vermeir wrote: > > > Op 17-11-14 om 20:28 schreef Lodewijk: > > > > > > > you back to the credit card page) or even via regular bank transfer > > (using > > > > an IBAN) in the Netherlands. The donation page > > > > > > Historically the structure of bank account numbers are very different > > > from country to country. And making transfers from one bank account to > > > an other bank account, especially internationally, are/where complex > and > > > expensive. > > > > > > There is still a lot of room of improvement but nevertheless it has > > > never been so easy and cheap to do international transfers as now. > > > > > > The IBAN system - International Bank Account Number - is active in a > > > fair chunk of the globe. > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Bank_Account_Number#Adoption > > > > > > Inside the EURO-zone , 19 countries, ?? 337 million Europeans , people > > > can make a bank transfer to an EURO-zone IBAN bank account without > > > additional expenses. > > > > > > Many more outside the EURO-zone can easy make international payments to > > > an IBAN bank account. That is not free ... but paypal is certainly not > > > free also. The costs are just deducted from your donation. > > > > > > > > > The WMF has always has been a huge fan of payment by credit cards. > > > Understandable, the WMF is founded in the country of the Credit card. > > > > > > But that can make you blind to the fact that other people are used to > > > total other payment systems. > > > > > > A couple of years ago I discovered that there where still people using > > > cheques in France. That came as a total surprise to me. I remember my > > > dad using cheques 30 years ago. I never came in to contact with a > cheque > > > since then. To my knowledge cheques where long gone. History. Extinct. > > > > > > But ... when you have the financial business concept of the WMF - when > > > you need money beg for it - the donation channel should be tailer made > > > for the specific common way of payment used by the person who is so > good > > > to be willing to make an donation. > > > > > > Walter > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
