Please consider, Gerard: Maybe it is time you stopped explaining to us all what is and isn't the point.
A. On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hoi, > > <grin> It is not that I am not with Brion. </grin> The problem is multi > faceted and I do not pretend that I know personell and how Lila is > appreciated. I am talking about community and about perceptions and maybe a > bit of the sociology of all this. > > Being for or against is not the point, hearing arguments where they are > made is at issue. If all we can do is state positions and let the dice > role, a lot more people will be hurt than necessary. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 22 February 2016 at 06:04, Anna Stillwell <astillw...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > > > I'm with Vibber. He has seen things clearly. > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Gerard Meijssen < > > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hoi, > > > Where have you been when the search was on for a new director for the > > > WIkimedia Foundation? It was the vision that Lila refers to that made > her > > > the chosen candidate. The fact that people object, frustrate and > > sometimes > > > sabotage is an unfortunate micro level consequence of what is > happening. > > > > > > Yes, we as a community are extremely self serving, we care for our own > > > hobby horses and we do not consider the impact of this narrow > mindedness. > > > It makes what Lila stand for one enemy, others who have differing > > > objectives are at best ignored because arguments do not really matter, > > are > > > ignored or are refuted by quoting the same old old. > > > Thanks, > > > GerardM > > > > > > On 22 February 2016 at 05:38, Nathan <nawr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Lila's statement of her vision for WMF is compelling and attractive. > If > > > > properly and faithfully executed, it seems like it would make just > the > > > > right adjustments to the culture of the WMF and its interaction with > > and > > > > support of the Wikimedia community. I have long been concerned that a > > > > number of positions at the WMF amounted to sinecures, or at least > > > returned > > > > little value to the projects in exchange for resources expended. It > > seems > > > > logical to me that such a radical change, even well enacted, would > > prompt > > > > discontent and departures from the organization. > > > > > > > > That said, I'm not convinced that this paradigm shift has been > handled > > > well > > > > by the WMF executive team and the board. First and foremost, this > > > statement > > > > from Lila is the best explanation given anywhere that I'm aware of > > > > describing the shift within the WMF. That is not good. Second, it > > appears > > > > that the work has not been done to get key members of the paid team > and > > > > volunteers on board with this process. This is another very > substantial > > > > failure. > > > > > > > > For anyone who believes that Lila's vision statement is right for the > > > > future of the WMF, these unforced errors should cause serious > anguish - > > > > needed changes might be lost or avoided because incompetent execution > > of > > > > prior initiatives left everyone deeply change-averse. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Anna Stillwell > > Major Gifts Officer > > Wikimedia Foundation > > 415.806.1536 > > *www.wikimediafoundation.org <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org>* > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. 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