On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Matthew Flaschen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 02/21/2016 11:03 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > >> So, if you speak of structurally connecting *open* sources, as a basis for >> smart editing tools, you seem to be saying that such copyrighted yet >> openly >> accessible sources, as well as all genuinely paywalled sources, should be >> excluded from these efforts. >> >> If that's correct, and I am not misunderstanding what you mean to say here >> (please correct me if I do!), how do you square it with the Wikimedia >> vision? >> > > She did not say anything about excluding references to proprietary sources > like those you mentioned above. I think we're all in agreement they will > still be referenced. > Thanks for your reply, Matt. At the Knowledge Engine FAQ on Meta, your colleague Chris Koerner told me, when I asked what criteria a source will have to fulfil in order to be included in the Knowledge Engine's search results, that he personally believed "that not only should the sources be open-access, but they should be in agreement with our other values, neutral point of view, free license, etc." So evidently we're not *all* in agreement. > She described possible enhanced support for including/connecting to open > data. That may not be possible/advisable to do for proprietary data, which > might require proprietary licenses or software. > Enhanced support for including/connecting open data could, I guess, benefit both editors adding that data to a Wikimedia project's page (Magnus tweeted an interesting application earlier today, see [[Falkensee]] in the English Wikipedia) and commercial re-users. > Of course, it depends on the actual details, but as an analogy think of > how fair use images are allowed on some specific projects (e.g. English > Wikipedia), but the central repositories (Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata) > only include open content/data. > Thanks. That is a good analogy. I see that there is now a record of a candid discussion between Lila and the Discovery team of what happened with the Knowledge Engine project here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Discovery/2016-02-16_Discussing_Knowledge_Engine_with_Lila That is good to see. Best, Andreas _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
