+1. It's difficult without breaking fifteen NDAs to underscore exactly how shellshocked and traumatised staff are right now, dealing with all of this for 8 hours a day for 3-18 months, depending on the nature of their concerns. As the people most impacted by negative or positive changes to the organisation it is imperative that their perspectives be involved in these conversations, and at the moment I don't think there's the emotional energy to do that. The emotional energy people have is much better spent healing as people, and as teams, and as an entity.
This isn't to say these points aren't valuable (they are!) merely that at the moment they're probably most valuable as an airing of opinions without consequence - a committee of the house, in parliamentary terms. I wouldn't expect any of them to immediately result in changes, and I think we'd be poorer if they did right now with such a big chunk of the affected parties not in a space to contribute. On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Keegan Peterzell <kpeterz...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > (slightly indirect to the topic, but not worth its own thread) > > Hey Pete, > > Thanks for your time and reflection, and that extend to everyone else, with > this and related topics over the past month. Wikimedia-l has actually been > a refreshing kind of place, where cautious respect and rational discourse > has been taking place. I've appreciated it greatly as events progressed as > they did. These conversations are what meatballwiki[0] is made of, and what > built Wikimedia in the first place. > > I look forward to these conversations continuing here, on meta, privately, > Facebook, and all the other mediums, which is getting to my point: let's > please keep all these much-needed discussions at a measured pace. I know > that I'm shell-shocked[1] to a good extent from the recent past, with the > burnout that comes with it as well, and I know I'm not the only one. I'd > like to participate in, and not just read, these conversations, but I know > it's going to take me some time to get back into the spirit of > meta-discussions about Wikimedia. Othes as well. > > So please, continue talking, sharing, misunderstanding and then working it > out, and all those other wonderful things, but please do remember that > there are some of us who are going to be silent a bit in our reflection, > and hopefully we'll be speaking again in the future. > > Everything else (for me, at least) is back to business/volunteering as > usual. > > 0. http://meatballwiki.org > 1. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15061465#sitelinks-wikipedia > > -- > Keegan Peterzell > Community Liaison, Product > Wikimedia Foundation > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
