On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Jimmy Wales <jimmywa...@ymail.com> wrote:

> On 2/28/16 6:48 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
> > I think it is far more likely that if the board is conducting its
> business
> > in a non-transparent manner, and has done for as long as it has existed,
> > then that is because Jimmy Wales, more than anyone else, likes it that
> way.
> No, this is wrong.  I think things should be much more transparent at
> the WMF generally, and with the board in particular.  One of the things
> that I would invite toward this end is a program of invited board
> observers from people who are well known and well trusted by the
> community, who can be trusted to keep confidential information
> confidential, sitting in on nearly every minute of every board meeting.
> I don't support filming board meetings because I don't want to end up in
> a world where board meetings are "shows" with people making speeches to
> pander to certain constituencies.  These are working meetings with
> people exploring ideas - self-censorship to avoid possibly offending
> some subset of people wouldn't be healthy.  But there are other ways to
> add to transparency.
> I think that nearly every presentation made to the board by staff should
> be published - possibly with certain things redacted if they really are
> confidential.
> > For example, on the Transparency Gap page on Meta WMF staffer Adam Wight
> > recently said much the same as what Chris Sherlock has been saying here:
> > that the board does not publish detailed minutes.
> I've not been involved in writing or publishing minutes for many years,
> if ever.  I'd like to see them be more detailed.

Then make it happen -- make it actually *happen*. What has stopped you?

If there is anyone else stopping you, then tell us. Call board votes on the
issues, and publish the votes so we can see who votes against.

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