Why Anthony
On 26 January 2016 at 20:46, Anthony Cole <ahcole...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, Aubrey.  It would be way too onerous to expect us to make each
> citation a Wikidata item.


If you use the currently available templates to format your citation then
its possible to extract this information with a bot, the next step is how
to use that to create a wikidata item... nothing onerous in using citation
templates on WP.

as for book older books dont have ISBNs, and some books are individually
notable yet assuming they have an ISBN they share that with the 1,000's of
of identical books that arent notable.

So many of my concerns and issues over WikiData were cleared up by Andy
Mabbett when he toured Australia last month, maybe WikiData/WMF could get
Andy on the road and talking to more communities it'd resolved many of the
underlying issues that are clogging up the system through misunderstanding
or false expectations




On 26 January 2016 at 20:46, Anthony Cole <ahcole...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, Aubrey.  It would be way too onerous to expect us to make each
> citation a Wikidata item.
>
> On Tuesday, 26 January 2016, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andre...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Anthony Cole <ahcole...@gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > Most editions of most books published in the last 40 years (certainly
> > books
> > > from reliable publishers) have an ISBN that identifies one edition.
> Most
> > > reliable journal articles these days have a doi. For simple citing of
> web
> > > pages, you could automatically convert bare urls to archived versions
> of
> > > the cited web page.
> > >
> >
> >
> > I do agree with you.
> > But the problem emerges if you want to cite the reference (the book, the
> > article) as an item.
> > There you have to take into account a "book model" in Wikidata, and it's
> > easier said than done. (scientific articles are a bit easier, and Magnus
> is
> > working on them).
> > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Source_MetaData
> >
> > Aubrey
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