I think this is unlikely to happen, because of the performance degradation (access via Tor will always be slower, which user studies <http://www.mdpi.com/1999-5903/4/2/488/htm> have shown to be a significant usability issue in the past). But as an option or fallback or separate app it might be a great idea; there is a Phabricator task at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T163747
On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 12:35 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak <dar...@alk.edu.pl> wrote: > Excellent! Still, as I argued before, I believe that a solution we could > use is defaulting to Tor channeling in our mobile app. Facebook offers it > as an option in partnership with Orbot - I believe we should do the same, > but default to it (so that people cannot be held responsible for making a > choice). For unlogged Wikipedia reading this solution is practically > transparent for users. > > I've recently contacted the WMF with Orbot people and hope that at least we > can evaluate this approach as a possibility. > > best, > > Dariusz Jemielniak "pundit" > > > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:11 AM, Cristian Consonni <crist...@balist.es> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Some months ago, the idea of setting up an onion service for Wikimedia > > projects was discussed on this list[1] and as a proposal in IdeaLab on > > Meta[2]. > > > > Today, Alec Muffett announced on Twitter[3] that he created «as an > > experiment» a series of read-only mirrors of all the Wikimedia projects. > > He will be running them for some time. > > > > The service is reachable with a Tor-enabled browser at the following > > address: > > https://www.qgssno7jk2xcr2sj.onion/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want to try out the service, first visit the addresses listed in > > this page and add exceptions for the SSL certificates: > > https://gist.github.com/alecmuffett/3da587fde6aef90ba3e49e8858fafdae > > > > (this is one of the limits of having a non-official service) > > > > Alec Muffett is the author of the Enterprise Onion Toolkit (EOTK)[4], a > > FLOSS project which "does for Onions what LetsEncrypt does for SSL", > > that is providing a simple way to transform websites in Onion services > > (which are accessible only and contained within the Tor network). Alec > > used EOTK for creating this demo. He was also behind the onion service > > for Facebook[5]. > > > > IMO this service, even with its current limitations, is quite awesome > > and I am very happy to see it. It is exactly the kind of proof of > > concept that I wanted to create with my proposal. So now there's that. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > Cristian > > > > [1]: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2017- > > June/087708.html > > [2]: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/A_Tor_ > > Onion_Service_for_Wikipedia > > [3]:https://twitter.com/AlecMuffett/status/933739816038076419 > > [4]: https://github.com/alecmuffett/eotk > > [5]: > > https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/ > > 10/facebook-offers-hidden-service-to-tor-users/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > -- > ________________________________________________________ > <http://nerds.kozminski.edu.pl/> prof. dr hab. Dariusz Jemielniak > kierownik katedry MINDS (Management in Networked and Digital Societies) > Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego > http://NeRDS.kozminski.edu.pl <http://nerds.kozminski.edu.pl/> > > associate faculty w Berkman-Klein Center for Internet and Society, > Harvard University > *Ostatnie artykuły:* > > - Dariusz Jemielniak, Maciej Wilamowski (2017) Cultural Diversity of > Quality of Information on Wikipedias > <http://crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/cultures%20of%20wikipedias.pdf> > *Journal > of the Association for Information Science and Technology* 68: 10. > 2460–2470. > - Dariusz Jemielniak (2016) Wikimedia Movement Governance: The Limits > of A-Hierarchical Organization > <http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/wikimedia_governance.pdf> > *Journal > of Organizational Change Management *29: 3. 361-378. > - Dariusz Jemielniak, Eduard Aibar (2016) Bridging the Gap Between > Wikipedia and Academia > <http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/bridging.pdf> *Journal of the > Association for Information Science and Technology* 67: 7. 1773-1776. > - Dariusz Jemielniak (2016) Breaking the Glass Ceiling on Wikipedia > <http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/glass-ceiling.pdf> *Feminist > Review *113: 1. 103-108. > - Tadeusz Chełkowski, Peter Gloor, Dariusz Jemielniak (2016) > Inequalities > in Open Source Software Development: Analysis of Contributor’s Commits > in > Apache Software Foundation Projects > <http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/asset?id=10.1371% > 2Fjournal.pone.0152976.PDF> > , *PLoS ONE* 11: 4. e0152976. > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik > i/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- Tilman Bayer Senior Analyst Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
