The information is so noisy (transclusions may trigger autocreation) and irrelevant (no information about pages, just wikis) I don't see an issue worth resolving.
Vito 2018-01-25 22:54 GMT+01:00 Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com>: > Joe, > > I believe that the issue of a potential privacy violation was first raised > on this list on December 30th, and I first emailed WMF Legal about this > issue on January 1st. Keeping in mind that the issue involves potential > privacy violations, I think that it's reasonable to think that this issue > should have been reviewed within days, not weeks. I disagree with the > statement that "A subsequent review is clearly going to be a low priority > task as I am sure you can understand Pine." If anything, I think that the > situation is clear to the contrary and it should have been reviewed within > days. > > For me, an RfC about this matter would be for the purposes of (1) > encouraging WMF to give more attention to this matter, (2) attempting to > establish community consensus about whether the matters being raised here > involve privacy violations, and (3) what should be done, if anything. > Personally, I think that the status quo does involve privacy violations and > that there should be changes. Whether that view is shared by others is > something that the RfC would attempt to measure. > > In this circumstance I consider RfC to be similar to a ballot measure, and > I think that it's appropriate for me to say that if I think that there are > problems then I may use tools that are available to me to attempt to > address them, preferably with WMF's cooperation, but without WMF"s > cooperation if necessary and if possible. > > John, > > A previous discussion about the privacy issues occurred in > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T42006. I received a new email from WMF > Legal in which they affirmed their department's 2012 view on this matter. > The most recent email gave me the impression that they are receptive to > discussion about whether there should be changes although there may be > resource limitations. That sounds like a good starting place for a > conversation, and I think that on the community's side an RfC is the best > way to gauge the community's views. I am busy for the next few days but > I'll try to set up an RfC on Meta during the weekend. > > Pine <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CatherineMunro/Bright_Places> > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 2:29 AM, Joseph Seddon <jsed...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > > > This conversation started in the middle of the Christmas break following > > which I suspect many staff took extended holidays, most departments are > in > > the middle annual planning and this week WMF are gathering for their > annual > > all hands meetings. So lets firtst consider the fact that senior legal > > staff have a lot on their plate. > > > > This problem has been discussed before and reviewed by legal as > acceptable. > > A subsequent review is clearly going to be a low priority task as I am > sure > > you can understand Pine. > > > > Making threats to handle ones demand and only in a manner that is > > acceptable to you is hardly going to make staff receptive to expediting > > your request. Lets give the good people time, afford them patience on our > > behalf and let them do their jobs. > > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 2:04 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > FYI for those on WIkimedia-l who may be interested, conversation about > > this > > > matter is ongoing. I am waiting a response from WMF Legal, and there > may > > be > > > others who have opened their own lines of inquiry. > > > > > > If I don't receive a reply from WMF Legal that I feel is satisfactory, > or > > > if I don't receive one at all, then I plan to set up an RfC about this > > > matter. > > > > > > Pine <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine> > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CatherineMunro/Bright_Places> > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I'm scared of the solutions that will "fix" this. > > > > I expect something as dramatically useful as the removal of "unblock > > this > > > > IP" button for IPs caught by autoblocks of registered users. > > > > > > > > Vito > > > > > > > > 2018-01-01 22:46 GMT+01:00 Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > I have created https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183876 and am > > > pinging > > > > > Legal to request a review of this matter. > > > > > > > > > > Happy new year, > > > > > > > > > > Pine > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/ma > > ilman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject= > unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/ > mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Seddon > > > > *Community and Audience Engagement Associate* > > *Advancement (Fundraising), Wikimedia Foundation* > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik > > i/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
