Sorry, but can I understand this as a promotion link to Facebook pages
(managed by community) is recommended for outreach Wikipedia, even if it
isn't an "official Facebook page" managed by WMF or chapters/usergroups?


Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy
Supporter, Wikimedian

2018-03-01 4:43 GMT+09:00 Asaf Bartov <abar...@wikimedia.org>:

> Facebook is a de-facto major venue of communication for a great majority of
> Internet users.  Many communities, user groups, and chapters have some kind
> of formal presence on Facebook -- "groups" or "pages".  Directing visitors
> to your wiki to *your own wiki's* presence on this other major platform,
> i.e. a direct link to your group/page on Facebook, is absolutely fine.  It
> is *quite* different from, say, just linking to www.facebook.com or
> explicitly endorsing it as a platform ("Join Facebook! It's great!") in
> general.
>
> As you note, a number of communities have done or are doing this.
> Especially for smaller communities, the impact of such link placement can
> be a significant driver of traffic (i.e. readers!) to your community
> group/page on Facebook, which itself is important for outreach, awareness,
> and volunteer recruitment, and therefore is mission-aligned.
>
> Cheers,
>
>    Asaf
>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:06 AM Jimmy Wales <jimmywa...@wikia-inc.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Speaking only for myself, not as a member of the board, I don't know of
> > any legal or other reason why this should not be done.  I think we
> > should be very careful about links or appearance of endorsement
> > especially on article pages, but outreach to people in the world should
> > take place wherever we find a willing and useful audience.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/28/18 6:29 AM, Minata Hatsune wrote:
> > > I know it based on local consensus, but what I mean here is: those
> > > consensus valid for WMF Term of Use and others policies or not? Because
> > it
> > > same with Wikipedia have linked with 3rd party, which is a commerical
> > > website.
> > >
> > > Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy
> > > Vietnamese Wikimedian
> > >
> > > 2018-02-28 18:52 GMT+09:00 James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > >> IMO this is based on local community consensus. It is not a global
> > policy.
> > >>
> > >> James
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Minata Hatsune <
> > minatahats...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello, I have a question: is it legal and valid for Wikipedia
> > communities
> > >>> put promotion links to their Facebook pages on public space as Main
> > Page
> > >> or
> > >>> Sitenotice?
> > >>>
> > >>> I see many of Wikimedia projects doing this, as Indonesia Wikipedia,
> > >> Arabic
> > >>> Wikipedia, etc... Their Facebooks page also have blue checkmark of
> > >> Facebook
> > >>> as verified.
> > >>>
> > >>> All what I concern is: Facebook is a commerical website, we put a
> link
> > as
> > >>> "official" to them, will it same with Wikipedia biased for Facebook
> and
> > >>> violated the NPOV policy? And in finally: is it OK if other projects
> > can
> > >> do
> > >>> that? Vietnamese Wikipedia also have a discussion about sitenotice
> > >>> promotion to Facebook at <
> > >>> https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Th%E1%BA%A3o_lu%E1%
> > >>> BA%ADn/Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_b%C3%A1_trang_Facebook_%22Wikipedia_
> > >>> ti%E1%BA%BFng_Vi%E1%BB%87t%22
> > >>>> . If this is OK, I think we have no reason to reject it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thank you!
> > >>>
> > >>> Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy
> > >>> Vietnamese Wikimedian
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