On 20 March 2018 at 15:03, Kirill Lokshin <kirill.loks...@gmail.com> wrote: > Descriptions of user group activities on Meta shouldn't be interpreted as > legal documents under UK law (or any other legal code, for that matter).
Hi Kirill, In the spirit of an open and transparent process, could you please provide a link to the scope of the new approved User Group is published, as the one on Meta is not the one that AffCom reviewed with the UG application? > Any questions regarding potential legal implications for Wikimedia UK > should, of course, be directed to the chapter itself. This brush-off is surprising, with the clear implication that AffCom has not approached WMUK with any question. I was mistaken in believing that AffCom had a responsibility to consider obvious legal implications, before approving a User Group that is granted the right to use official logos and the name "Wikipedia" and its language variants when advertising their events. It is disappointing to see that AffCom does not see their official process as needing to address these areas, which may well be a barrier to direct funding, legal recognition or represent a risk to other named pre-existing Affiliates within the scope of the proposed new UG. > Regards, > Kirill Lokshin > Chair, Affiliations Committee Thanks, Fae, volunteer -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 7:11 AM, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Support the request that AffCom share their understanding of the scope >> and authority of the announced User Group. >> >> From the wording of "represent Wikimedia UK in Wales", the UG is >> not independent of WMUK and consequently acts as a Chapter subsidiary. >> As far as I am aware, there is no other regional based UG which does >> this. >> >> As a corollary, the representation has legal implications for UK >> Charity. WMUK must have both responsibility and the authority to >> monitor and control how they are represented by the UG. It is not >> clear from the meta web page or the community vote how this will work, >> apart from the implicit assumption that funding paid to UG projects is >> effectively managed as a WMUK continuing programme. Presumably the UG >> will not be requesting funds from the WMF or via the FDC process >> separate from WMUK's FDC procedure. >> >> The original vote at the Welsh Wikipedia compared the aims to that of >> the Basque UG. However based on their scope, the Basque UG does not >> officially represent any other affiliate or Chapter. >> >> Links >> 1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Wales >> 2. https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicipedia:Sefydlu_Gr%C5%B5p_ >> Defnyddwyr_Wicimedia >> >> On 19 March 2018 at 00:10, Philip Kopetzky <philip.kopet...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Hi Kirill! >> > >> > It would be really helpful to outline these kind of decisions with >> > arguments/deliberations that AffCom decided to follow, considering that >> > this sets a precedence in the worldwide community. For example, UG Wales >> > states that they "cooperate with and represent Wikimedia UK in Wales" - >> > does this mean that we are now accepting UGs within chapters? Is this UG >> > supposed to be able to apply for grants, despite its overlap with WMUK? >> > >> > Best, >> > Philip >> > >> > >> > >> > On 11 March 2018 at 15:44, Shlomi Fish <shlo...@shlomifish.org> wrote: >> > >> >> On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 10:32:34 -0400 >> >> Kirill Lokshin <kirill.loks...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Hi everyone! >> >> > >> >> > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has >> recognized >> >> > Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru (Wikimedia Community User >> Group >> >> > Wales)  as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to promote the >> >> > Wikimedia movement in Wales and support the development of Wikimedia >> >> > projects and content in the Welsh language. >> >> > >> >> > Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group! >> >> > >> >> >> >> congratulations! >> >> >> >> > Regards, >> >> > Kirill Lokshin >> >> > Chair, Affiliations Committee >> >> > >> >> >  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_ >> Group_Wales >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: >> >> > Wikimediaemail@example.com Unsubscribe: >> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> >> > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ >> >> My Favourite FOSS - http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/favourite/ >> >> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>