One reason why you do not get much traction is because many people, myself
included, found that there is little purpose in spending time on Meta. It
is time spend in a frustrating way and it hardly ever results in the kind
of results you hope for. The time necessary to keep up with what is written
there robs you of the time for projects. Projects are practical and expand
on the things you really care for. For me that is work on subjects that do
not get the light of day from most others.

My meta thoughts I publish on my blog [1], subjects are my projects and my
thoughts as I progress .I write there and to be honest, I do not expect
much of anyone; I am happy with a single person seeing the benefits and
contributing in what I do. Currently I work on African politicians, my
interest on Ottoman and Islamic history is on hold for the moment. I find
that my thinking is often controversial.

Currently there are some moves about paying admins, maybe others. I am
strongly opposed because what you sponsor is not so much the work done but
the ability to do the work *and *read Meta. Given reports of ninety pages,
it is hardly feasible to keep up even with Wiki as a full time job. It is
why we should not sponsor what are in effect policy tigers.

When people talk about fulfilment and having a life, in my current job, I
work 51 hours a week, I have plenty of slack time; a few minutes here and
there. For that Wikidata is excellent. In addition I have to shop, cook,
wash the dishes... and be loving to my wife.

[1] https://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/

On 10 June 2018 at 02:08, Richard Ames <rich...@ames.id.au> wrote:

> Micru,
> I think a lot of us care.  I wish you well!
> Some time ago I tried to put some thoughts around volunteering at the WMF.
> I thought it needed to be better planed / managed.
> I could not get enough interest to progress the conversation.
> You may wish to read https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Volunteer_Management
> and the talk page thereof.....
> Regards, Richard.
> On 10 June 2018 at 06:25, David Cuenca Tudela <dacu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Aubrey,
> >
> > You speak so much truth in your words that I'm feeling overwhelmed right
> >
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