On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:10 PM Andrew Lih <andrew....@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 3:40 AM Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > So it seems that the main rationale for an annual Wikimania brought up in > > the 2016 meeting was that Wikimania was vital for movement governance and > > accountability. Which wasn't particularly stressed in the WMF's > > consultation, but I can see why that kind of issue was very fresh in > > peoples' minds in 2016. > > > > As the facilitator of the 2016 session discussing Wikimania, I don't recall > the "main rationale" of the discussion being about "governance and > accountability" and instead remember many more issues that stood out. > > For example, the prominent phrases from the first part of the meeting > include the following, with most of the notes echoing these themes: > - inspiring, and connecting > - opportunity for different communities to meet > - important to use opportunity to do outreach > - empower important volunteers
Sorry, don't think I expressed myself particularly well. Yes, those themes appear to have been present in the meeting, but they were also very much present in the WMF's consultation, which concluded that they could probably be fulfilled just as well by moving to a one-year-in-two rotation between Wikimanias and other regional gatherings. > > Now the Wikimedia Conference / Summit looks set to assume this role, what > > is the continued rationale for having Wikimania every year? > > Given the above, I think the basis of the question is not sufficiently > established. > > In fact, two recent reports or decisions reinforce Wikimania's role even > more: > > 1. From the Community Engagement Insights 2018 Report - "Discovery of new > projects and ideas is best at Wikimania: While all conferences had a high > proportion of participants that reported discovering new projects or ideas > as the most important outcome, Wikimania had the highest proportion of them > all." - The Community Engagement Insights 2018 Report [1] [2] > > 2. The Wikimedia Conference (WMCON) has pivoted to become the Wikimedia > Summit. In the process, they announced "learning and capacity-building will > not be part of the program." [2] Therefore I'd argue that the onus is even > *more* on conferences like Wikimania to facilitate this. > > -Andrew > > [1] - > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Engagement_Insights/2018_Report#Community_Resources_team:_Local_and_regional_events_show_more_learning_and_building_skills_as_major_outcomes_than_larger_global_conferences,_while_Wikimania_excels_in_discovery_of_the_new > > [2] - > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2018-September/091062.html > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
