In many ways yes - not that branding isnt important, but these two conversations are a great example of people engaging with the narrow questions that are easy to have a view on, and not the big, difficult questions.
(Though also, there is nothing more interesting on the working group email lists - the summaries are high level and the documents are high level because that's where we're at....) On Mon, 15 Apr 2019, 21:09 James Salsman, <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote: > I withdraw any opinions and suggestions about the branding discussion, > and don't intend to continue participating in it. Instead, I would > like to have a more substantive discussion: > > (1) I ask that the CTO search team please publish their search and > requirement criteria, including the CTO job description and any and > all goals for the CTO position whether in current planning documents > or unpublished drafts of planning materials. > > (2) Why are the Strategy Working Group lists not on > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo ? I recall several people > involved with the strategy process as saying it is "open" and asking > at length for additional participation (e.g. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxCFzA3PEaQ&t=23m and > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxCFzA3PEaQ&t=30m et seq.) To be > honest, there doesn't seem to be much community engagement from > working groups or strategy process facilitators on meta, and the > meeting summaries are very abstract and difficult to understand. If > there is a need for private strategy working group communications, can > people use off-list emails instead? > > Best regards, > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>