A large part of the problem is the disconnection between online and offline
communities or types of users. It is quite counterproductive having
affiliates, outreach programs, whatever, reaching out to people out to the
Wikimediaverse inviting them to use our projects without having any plans
or means to have someone from the onwiki communities directly following and
monitoring those activities.

As Tomasz wrote: "*And in fact - probably the best thing would be to have
in any outreach team at least one person having good knowledge about
hostile Common's habits and  how to effectively cope with them :-)*"

This is very true, and IMO very much inescapable.

Best,
Paulo

Peter Southwood <peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> escreveu no dia domingo,
12/05/2019 à(s) 18:59:

> It seems to be a situation where there were no clear instructions, so
> people did what they thought was a good idea, but others thought it was a
> bad idea. No communications, now the blame is being spread without
> analysing the problem and proposing a solution. Not an unusual situation
> really.
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Mister Thrapostibongles
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> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach
>
> Hello all,
>
> There seems to be a dispute between the Outreach and the Commons components
> of The Community, judging by the article "Wikimedia Commons: a highly
> hostile place for multimedia students contributions" at the Education
> Newsletter
>
>
> https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News/April_2019/Wikimedia_Commons:_a_highly_hostile_place_for_multimedia_students_contributions
>
> As far as I can understand it, some students on an Outreach project
> uploaded some rather well-made video material, and comeone on Commons
> deleted them because they appeared to well-made to be student projects and
> so concluded they were copyright violations.  But some rather odd remarks
> were made "Commons has to fight the endless stream of uploaded copyrighted
> content on behalf of a headquarters in San Francisco that doesn't care."
> and
>  "you have regarded Commons as little more than free cloud storage for
> images you intend to use on Wikipedia ".
>
> Perhaps the Foundation needs to resolve this dispute?
>
> Thrapostibongles
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