Fair comments. It would be a useful allocation of the donors' money Cheers, P
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Yann Forget Sent: 12 May 2019 13:29 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach Yes, Yaroslav is right. The active community is small compared to the amount of work to be done. I have advocated since long that massive training is needed to fix this. These trainings should be sponsored by the WMF and its affiliates. Regards, Yann Forget Jai Jagat 2020 Grand March Coordinator https://www.jaijagat2020.org/ +91-74 34 93 33 58 (also WhatsApp) Le dim. 12 mai 2019 à 16:40, Yaroslav Blanter <ymb...@gmail.com> a écrit : > Just the active community itself is too small, compared with the amount of > material it has to deal with. > > Cheers > Yaroslav > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:07 PM Benjamin Ikuta <benjaminik...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Is the shortage of admins due to a lack of people willing or capable to > do > > the job, or increasing difficulty in obtaining the bit? > > > > > > > > On May 12, 2019, at 3:55 AM, Tomasz Ganicz <polime...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Well, Actually, at the moment it looks they are all undeleted. > > > > > > The good habit - which I was keeping when organizing several > GLAM-related > > > mass uploads - was to create on Commons project page describing what it > > is > > > intended to be uploaded, preferably in English. Then you can create a > > > project template to mark all uploads with them. > > > > > > See: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Partnerships > > > > > > Despite practical issue of avoiding unnecessary clashes with Common's > > > admins - creating template and project page helps to promote you > project > > > across Wikimedia communities and may inspire others to do something > > similar. > > > > > > Commons is indeed quite hostile environment for uploaders, but on the > > other > > > hand it is constantly flooded by hundreds of copyright violating > files a > > > day: > > > > > > See the list from just one day: > > > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/2019/05/01 > > > > > > so this hostility works both ways - Common's admins have to cope with > > > aggressive hostile copyright violators every day, and after some time - > > > decide to leave or became being hostile themselves... and the other > issue > > > is decreasing number of active admins and OTRS agents. > > > > > > I think - sooner or later - all this system - uploads - screening > uploads > > > by admins, and OTRS agreements - needs deep rethinking. > > > > > > > > > niedz., 12 maj 2019 o 10:48 Mister Thrapostibongles < > > > thrapostibong...@gmail.com> napisał(a): > > > > > >> Hello all, > > >> > > >> There seems to be a dispute between the Outreach and the Commons > > components > > >> of The Community, judging by the article "Wikimedia Commons: a highly > > >> hostile place for multimedia students contributions" at the Education > > >> Newsletter > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News/April_2019/Wikimedia_Commons:_a_highly_hostile_place_for_multimedia_students_contributions > > >> > > >> As far as I can understand it, some students on an Outreach project > > >> uploaded some rather well-made video material, and comeone on Commons > > >> deleted them because they appeared to well-made to be student projects > > and > > >> so concluded they were copyright violations. But some rather odd > > remarks > > >> were made "Commons has to fight the endless stream of uploaded > > copyrighted > > >> content on behalf of a headquarters in San Francisco that doesn't > care." > > >> and > > >> "you have regarded Commons as little more than free cloud storage for > > >> images you intend to use on Wikipedia ". > > >> > > >> Perhaps the Foundation needs to resolve this dispute? > > >> > > >> Thrapostibongles > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > , > > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz > > > http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek > > > http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
