All, A suggestion that I think might help to focus the discussion.
I suggest that anyone who wants to discuss what Fram might or might not have done, and whether or not some acts that Frame might or might not have done, or failed to do, merits the punishment that has been meted out should refrain from doing so. Since no-one with reliable information about exactly what the complaints to T&S were is going to post here, and no-one who posts here has any reliable information about them, all such discussions here are based on guesses, assumptions, rumours or confabulations, and can be of precisely no value whatsoever. Thrapostibongles On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 4:26 AM Techman224 <techman...@techman224.ca> wrote: > Forwarding to WIkimedia-l since WikiEN-l is relatively dead. > > Since this message, an Arbcom member (SilkTork) stated that they weren't > consulted, nor did this action was the result of Arbcom forwarding a > concern to the office. [1] > > The only non-response excuse from the WMF [2] was that "local communities > consistently struggle to uphold not just their own autonomous rules but the > Terms of Use, too.” even though there were no complaints on-wiki nor to > Arbcom privately. > > The on-wiki discussion is taking place at the Bureaucrats and the Arbcom > noticeboards. > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#User:Fram_banned_for_1_year_by_WMF_office > < > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard#User:Fram_banned_for_1_year_by_WMF_office > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard#Request_for_ArbCom_to_comment_publicly_on_Fram's_ban > > [1] > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=901300528 > < > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=901300528 > > > [2] > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#Statement_from_the_WMF_Trust_&_Safety_Team > > Techman224 > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > From: George Herbert <george.herb...@gmail.com> > > Subject: [WikiEN-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block > > Date: June 10, 2019 at 8:54:34 PM CDT > > To: English Wikipedia <wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org> > > Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org> > > > > In case you're not following on-wiki - Office S&T blocked English > Wikipedia > > user / administrator Fram for a year and desysopped, for unspecified > > reasons in the Office purview. There was a brief statement here from > > Office regarding it which gave no details other than that normal policy > and > > procedures for Office actions were followed, which under normal > > circumstances preclude public comments. > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#User:Fram_banned_for_1_year_by_WMF_office > > > > Several people on Arbcom and board have commented they're making private > > inquiries under normal reporting and communication channels, due to the > > oddity and essentially uniqueness of the action. > > > > There was an initial surge of dismay which has mellowed IMHO into "Ok, > > responsible people following up". > > > > I understand the sensitivity of some of the topics under Office actions, > > having done OTRS and other various had-to-stay-private stuff myself at > > times in the past. A high profile investigation target is most unusual > but > > not unheard of. > > > > I did send email to Fram earlier today asking if they had any public > > comment, no reply as yet. > > > > > > -- > > -george william herbert > > george.herb...@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > WikiEN-l mailing list > > wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
