So Yann should we as a community just build something as a proof of concept? If we are talking less than 250 USD per month, I am sure we can scrounge up the money for a trial 6 month trial.
James On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 2:59 AM Yann Forget <yan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, James' pricing doesn't match the actual cost. > We do not need to check all images uploaded to Commons, only the suspicious > ones (small images without EXIF data). > If we check 2,000 images a day (more than enough IMO), that would cost $7 a > day, so $210 a month. > > Regards, > Yann > > > Le mar. 18 juin 2019 à 01:11, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > > Google has been offering reverse image search as part of their vision > API: > > > > https://cloud.google.com/vision/docs/internet-detection > > > > The pricing is $3.50 per 1,000 queries for up to 5,000,000 queries per > > month: > > > > https://cloud.google.com/vision/pricing > > > > Above that quantity "Contact Google for more information": > > > > https://cloud.google.com/contact/ > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 8:23 AM James Forrester > > <jforres...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 at 06:28, Yann Forget <yan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > It has been suggested many times to ask Google for an access to their > > API > > > > for searching images, > > > > so that we could have a bot tagging copyright violations (no free > > access > > > > for automated search). > > > > That would the single best improvement in Wikimedia Commons workflow > > for > > > > years. > > > > And it would benefit all Wikipedia projects, big or small. > > > > > > > > > > Yann, > > > > > > As you should remember, we asked Google for API access to their reverse > > > image search system, years ago (maybe 2013?). They said that there > isn't > > > such an API any more (they killed it off in ~2012, I think), and that > > they > > > wouldn't make a custom one for us. The only commercial alternative we > > found > > > at the time would have cost us approximately US$3m a month at upload > > > frequency for Commons then, and when contacted said they wouldn't do > any > > > discounts for Wikimedia. Obviously, this is far too much for the > > > Foundation's budget (it would be even more now), and an inappropriate > way > > > to spend donor funds. Providing the service in-house would involve > > building > > > a search index of the entire Internet's (generally non-free) images and > > > media, which would cost a fortune and is totally incompatible with the > > > mission of the movement. This was relayed out to Commons volunteers at > > the > > > time, I'm pretty sure. > > > > > > Obviously Google might have changed their mind, though it seems > > unlikely. I > > > imagine that Google engineers and product owners don't follow this > list, > > so > > > it's unlikely that they will re-create the API without being asked > > directly. > > > > > > J. > > > -- > > > *James D. Forrester* (he/him <http://pronoun.is/he> or they/themself > > > <http://pronoun.is/they/.../themself>) > > > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > -- > Jai Jagat 2020 Grand March Coordination Team > https://www.jaijagat2020.org/ > +91-74 34 93 33 58 (also WhatsApp) > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
