I couldn't get onto WP or en.wikt shortly after I had heard about the MW
participation in the strike. I jumped to an apparently wrong conclusion.
Sorry.

I am glad that the availability of free knowledge for all was not disrupted.

On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 3:19 AM Todd Allen <toddmal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As far as I can tell, only the Foundation wiki is showing the strike
> message. That particular one is pretty much theirs to do as they like with.
>
> If they started doing that to any other wikis without their agreement,
> well, then we'd have a problem. But so long as it's only the WMF wiki
> itself, I don't see the issue.
>
> Todd
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 6:45 PM Dennis During <dcdur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am profoundly disappointed that WMF employees don't value the mission.
> > Instead they seem to simply follow fashion and force users and volunteers
> > to follow their fashionable methods of advocacy.  They use their monopoly
> > power to deny free access to the world's knowledge that many thousands of
> > volunteers have diligently assembled. This time it is to show solidarity
> > with environmental advocates. What will it be next time?
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 15:35 Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I have a few comments.
> > >
> > > While I appreciate the sentiment, I wouldn't have put the
> > > wikimediafoundation.org domain "on strike", just as I wouldn't have
> put
> > a
> > > government agency's website "on strike". I think that some discussion
> of
> > > climate change would be fine, but I think that WMF's action here is
> > > somewhat strange.
> > >
> > > I think that asking about the climate impact of staff travel is fine.
> > > However, I would also include questions about travel for Wikimedia
> events
> > > more broadly. I believe that the WMF Board has indicated support for
> > trying
> > > to reduce the Wikiverse's contributions to climate change. As has been
> > > mentioned in this thread, WMF released a report yesterday
> > > <
> > >
> >
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2019-September/093519.html
> > > >
> > > on the subject of sustainability. While I have not read it, I think
> that
> > > measuring and attempting to reduce reduce negative environmental
> impacts
> > > from Wikimedia activities is good, including negative environmental
> > impacts
> > > from travel. However, I also think that there are some benefits to
> morale
> > > and communications from in person meetings, so I would be reluctant to
> > > eliminate travel and conferences entirely.
> > >
> > > I think that it's fine to ask whether WMF senior management is
> practicing
> > > what they preach. However, Fae, I feel that your tone in this thread is
> > > excessively harsh on this point. I think that you could ask very
> similar
> > > questions with a tone that is calmer.
> > >
> > > On the subject of environmental sustainability, my main concern at this
> > > time is the banner on the WMF website which I feel is somewhat weird
> and
> > is
> > > inconsistent with WMF's goal of being "essential infrastructure". Do we
> > > want "essential infrastructure" to go on strike, particularly when that
> > > infrastructure is supposed to be for an organization that provides
> public
> > > service and supports the community in publishing reliable scientific
> > > information? I think not. However, I think that the banner is
> regrettably
> > > consistent with the series of surprising decisions from WMF in the past
> > few
> > > months. That is, to me, the most concerning element in all of this. If
> > WMF
> > > wants to be a public service infrastructure provider then I think that
> it
> > > should act like one.
> > >
> > > Pine
> > > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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